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the army air forces has announced that a

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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today is thursday november 18

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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a total undisclosed location

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but it is beautiful

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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and south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network in the on x network

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i'm here with jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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alright

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world premiere release and celebration

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of the film the observers

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tonight my guests include linda molten

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howe whitley strieber richard dolan john

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leon kennedy and roger r richards

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is that enough for you kids

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can you handle that

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that's tonight hanging out with a bunch

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so excited about all of this in just a

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i would announce it now no

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just like i was surprised yesterday

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you'll be surprised in just a minute

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i do want to announce that uh i spoke

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he is at a real secret undisclosed

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all right all right follow me on twitter

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at j church radio

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sandbox

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come and hang out with us there and we

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youtube you know what i'm saying youtube

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yeah any questions during the show

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tonight please use hashtag f2bq

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let's get to the breaking news

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more than 5500 silver coins buried by a

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river about 1800 years ago

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are in the hands of archaeologists

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that's right following the horde's

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at the time of the coins burial

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the roman empire was of course in full

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swing with its coinage reaching all

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the standard silver domination during

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the dreaded polar orbit

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increasing orbital traffic isn't just an

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nasa's not moving

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india's got to move so they both agreed

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back on october 18th to shift its orbit

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india it's going to be you

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we're not moving

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and that was over let's get to show

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cracking happy birthday to today the one

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the only

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52 years old zoolander

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meet the parents

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rushmore the royal tenant bombs

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bottle rocket

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absolutely fantastic and funny actor

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who led my list of oh you know what i'm

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not going to go there today kirk hammett

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is 58 years old

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bass great

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is 71 years old i've known rudy for

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a very very long time

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i don't know when we first met him

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together for many many years and did a

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very very close friend of mine today 71

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years old and he looks exactly the same

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he does

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is when we first met

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and uh happy birthday rude and uh you

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demand kim wild today is 61

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kids in america

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and nickelbacks

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nah not going to do it i'm not i'm so

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tempted our dead guy's birthday today is

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1922 to 2004 died at the age of 81. al

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and a talent agent who worked with elvis

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presley he was elvis's first manager

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before colonel tom parker that's right

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but that's not the cool part about al

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it was al who announced after each elvis

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happy birthday al after announcing for

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an elvis tribute show in august 2004

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in coachella california

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al was killed in a car accident on the

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way back to his las vegas home

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happy birthday out on this day in

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people's temple founder jim jones

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leads

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909 of his followers to their deaths

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in a mass murder-suicide at their

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commune in guyana

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all right fader fact

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let me uh i gotta click on something

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here i i have to click on something

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fader fact

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in 1953

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a member of the indiana textbook

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commission attempted to ban reading

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some things you just can't make up can't

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make it up that's a fader fact

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look at that video right there sean from

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that was like the pv quiet riot uh

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i think i think that was a pv

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could be something else but check out

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check out rude

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love that fader knots are the absolute

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i've been celebrating all day long i

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i've been consuming copious amounts of

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and i did most of that

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with christina gomez and i thought to

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myself i said hey you know um after

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doing that today with christina what

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what do i do you know uh

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i was celebrating i thought you know

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i'm gonna i'm gonna see if christina

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wants to come in tonight and celebrate

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with me

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so i'm gonna say right now how you doing

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hey jimmy how you doing today i'm doing

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fantastic and uh

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uh i i just had to bring you in tonight

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i had to bring you in for a minute uh i

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know that you just watched the film i

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had a great fun time with you earlier

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today on your show

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um but here we are on fade to black in

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the world premiere of the observers

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and i know that you just wrapped the

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film what'd you think

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i yeah i literally just finished it

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right before you called and i think

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overall this movie is simply a great

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primer for those that are just newly

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being exposed to the topic and and

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throughout the whole film it forces you

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to ask questions and you're getting all

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these different aspects that i feel like

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it's geared to so many different people

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depending on what your beliefs are you

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kind of have a religious aspect to it

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you have the more like

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anecdotal aspect when talking about

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grays and reptilians and then you have a

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more scientific aspect so i feel like

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this film overall incorporates a bunch

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of people's ideas and regardless of what

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you believe in it makes you ask

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and and that's what you do best and

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while i am making my next statement and

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question to you christina i'm going to

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ask you to

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switch your microphone over to your

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shore

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because i think we are using another

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microphone watch this she's going to go

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jimmy you that's why you are

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the radio professional

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ah see i don't use skype so i thought it

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would do it automatically but it seems

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like it didn't now see now see how it

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see

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i am a radio veteran

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i'm a radio veteran um christina but

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this is the thing

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the one thing that i know about you

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you are constantly researching you're

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constantly reading you're watching

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things you're learning

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so you've got a pretty good barometer of

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material and if uh what material is

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and how did the film impact you did it

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did it did it send you a vibe that the

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rest of the world is going to understand

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i sure do hope so and and i and i took

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quite a few notes throughout the film i

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know you did share with you i know you

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did

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okay

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all right all right give me some notes

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all right here we go from the beginning

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to end i got i got 10 minutes let's do

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this

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so

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the first thing that i thought was

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interesting which was what richard dolan

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had mentioned near the very beginning of

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the film which was this ufo uap topic

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went from a threat to a challenge and

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there was no

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later on throughout this evolvement of

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how the government is

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considering the uap topic

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they're starting to say oh we simply

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don't know what it is and

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lou later ended up saying you don't see

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it until you see it you don't know what

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it is until you know what it is right

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and and i feel like that's very

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appropriate to say for this field and

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also for the paranormal and the

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supernatural

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now later on um there was a mention that

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the 11th hour right before the film was

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ready to be closed up and do the editing

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lou decided to do the interview because

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of mr jimmy church he has some

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connections

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and in this interview that lou did with

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the

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saying and and i feel like he's kind of

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with lua lozando he's a really special

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character because he's never gonna say

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aliens are real he's never gonna give

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you the full answers to what what's

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going on

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instead with him you really have to read

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in between the lines he's very careful

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with the words that he says and how he

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says them and i think for a lot of

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people they might not

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agree with how he says things because

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he's been he's a counterintelligence

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officer you know people don't believe

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him or those or some people really do

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believe him and they're like huge fans

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of his

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but

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again he is a man that still has to

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follow some rules even though he's no

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longer part of atip at least to our

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knowledge

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he he can't just spill the beans so

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instead i feel like

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he he states

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the more information that we get the

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more and more we can believe that we're

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not alone now if i don't know

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i don't know if that would be classified

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as disclosure or not but coming from a

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man like him with the special words that

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he uses i feel like that's dropping a

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lot of bombs that maybe people aren't

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catching and he's he's a man that

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doesn't well one can't really say things

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straight away but he's very realistic

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and he doesn't want to give false hope

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to people and he says and he said before

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in the past in multiple interviews is

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that he wants everyone to be a

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researcher to to look in between the

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lines and to do the research yourself to

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find your own answers because we're not

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we're simply just not going to get it

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from the government as you said at the

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very end of the film

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there is no way the government's going

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to give us disclosure instead we will be

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getting it from ourselves and then

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that kind of

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led me in to the thoughts of my

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generation and for those that don't know

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who i am on your show my name is

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christina gomez i'm 22 years old and i'm

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still in college

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so

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what i've realized and we're talking to

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old generations being so

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involved in the topic i feel like

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myself and those of my age as well can

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see that we will probably colonize mars

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in our lifetime we have the technology

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that where we're already able to explore

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space it will probably be in my lifetime

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that we will have bases on the moon

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these aren't things that are out of our

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reach and with humanity for since since

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the beginning of time we are so

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adventurous we're so curious we have

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crossed the oceans when people thought

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it was impossible we have we have passed

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the desolate desert so when people said

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you're gonna die if you cross the desert

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yet so many of us have survived and we

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want to explore the new horizons every

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single time we want to get that new high

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in a sense

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and that isn't going to change it's it's

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right now we're traveling space to the

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best of our ability and who knows what

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will be in the future

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however every time that we've traveled

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so far in our history no matter what

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country it's been

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a lot of times when

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colonists come or conquistadors come

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they enslave

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they

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so on and so forth

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now if another civilization is seeing

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this okay let let's go into the belief

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that there are possible

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extraterrestrials

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seeing

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how how humanity is evolving would they

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really want to interact with a species

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that is so warlike that fights one

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another simply because of not just our

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race but our beliefs our opinions some

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information that we find that people

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don't like and here's the thing we're

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all the same we're all part of the human

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race now imagine another race coming

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down and saying hello humans i have come

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from the planet tsar

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and i just want to say hello to everyone

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i

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understand

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how they work all of their bits and

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pieces

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but again you know i could be wrong

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maybe

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evolved past that but i think based off

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of simply our human history

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other civilizations are possibly still

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hiding in the shadows to the majority of

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of the human race because they see

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what we've done before but

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maybe we'll be more sensible

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and and i think for the government or

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those that believe that the government

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has all of these answers that yes a a

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contract was signed between the grays

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and the humans or whatever other race so

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that they could abduct humanity and we

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get technology whatever this that and

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the other

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that's

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all of that is for profit it's for greed

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and

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is the government hiding the information

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that aliens are among us because they

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can't gain anything from it there can't

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be any money from it is is that the case

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and if that is the case

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then you're practically ruining a

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beautiful reality that simply could be

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possible by hiding the fact that the if

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if these entities are

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coming in and sharing whatever their

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knowledge and their technology with us

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and the human race doesn't know because

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the government's not gaining money from

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it

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that's disgusting that is absolutely

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horrific

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but yet again

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maybe the military corporate corporate

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companies the government maybe they

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really don't have the answers

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maybe it is very possible that they're

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not covering this up because they're

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doing it for greed maybe they're

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covering up because they're scared

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because they don't know what's truly

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going on

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and

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50 60 years ago

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if the government came out with

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disclosure and saying

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yes aliens are real and we have all this

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information it's very possible that

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those people 50 60 years ago could have

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been running for the hills being

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terrified because it doesn't fit their

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norm it doesn't fit their mentality of

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well i'm just here to have a family feed

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my family and then die

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in my generation and and i feel like i'm

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speaking for many people in this case

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it's we grew up with television we grew

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up with alien movies tv shows cartoons

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we expect to have disclosure in our

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lifetime many of us already believe that

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there's no possible way we're the only

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beings in the entire universe it's it's

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not possible so if disclosure did come

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today

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i i think

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we would be ready for it i i really do

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and this movie

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led to a lot of those feelings of of

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00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:01,919
hope but also a little bit of despair at

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the same time seeing of seeing where

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previous generations have been and how

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they had to fight and how it's slowly

538
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becoming easier in just several years i

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feel like we've made huge leaps that

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people 10 years ago couldn't have

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imagined i don't think it would have

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been possible without some very

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important people that have come to the

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front lines and really pushed for

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disclosure one of them being lua lozando

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and again i know people are are very on

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the fence about him either they love him

548
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:37,760
or they hate him but regardless of him

549
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being a counterintelligence officer or

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not

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he goes on practically every podcast

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00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:46,320
that he's invited to no matter if you

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have 10 subscribers or a hundred

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thousand

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and he is going to the best of his

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ability

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answer the questions that you have same

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with the mainstream media same with the

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people in office and politicians and so

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forth now i feel like he is one of the

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few people that have have made a big

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difference in the short period of time

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that all of this

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has happened

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well let me ask you this and that makes

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me very happy i never thought that

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i would appreciate invader zim and what

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00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:22,080
it taught

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uh your generation to prepared you for

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00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:27,440
this but that was uh very well said

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but yeah in the short time that we have

572
00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:31,679
left you brought up a great point you

573
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:34,320
guys were your generation you guys what

574
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,320
do you mean you guys well we you know

575
00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:38,559
talking about your generation and

576
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:42,000
uh with technology and and cartoons and

577
00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:43,919
television and movies and

578
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:46,880
and and things and you guys and games

579
00:27:52,389 --> 00:27:49,760
right you're a gamer um so you know what

580
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:52,399
production is and you know what uh

581
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:54,320
something should look like

582
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:56,480
how was that for you the production of

583
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:58,559
the film and the look and the feel of

584
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:00,240
the film

585
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:02,320
i really liked the the backdrop i

586
00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:03,840
thought it was really nice and how each

587
00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:05,520
person had a slightly different color

588
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:07,520
either depending on their outfit or

589
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:09,520
something to like the opposite of the

590
00:28:12,549 --> 00:28:11,440
color spectrum i found that really

591
00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:12,559
interesting

592
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:14,559
the only thing that i didn't like that

593
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:18,159
that's relatively new with documentaries

594
00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:19,279
is uh

595
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:21,679
the moving camera and the wobble it's

596
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:23,919
it's like a new style

597
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:26,399
i'm not a fan of it personally that was

598
00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:28,399
that was your generation

599
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:30,799
your generation

600
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:33,039
this must be perfectly clear we're

601
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:35,120
trying to be

602
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:38,320
hip young fresh and cool

603
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:39,600
with uh

604
00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:42,880
with the gorilla style of camera work

605
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:46,880
um yeah uh i i i enjoy that part of it

606
00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:48,320
though and

607
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:51,120
um i i think all too often

608
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:54,080
um and you're my guest right now and and

609
00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:55,440
i want to hear from you but i think all

610
00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:56,960
too often we have a static camera it

611
00:29:02,389 --> 00:28:59,520
doesn't move and you're looking at that

612
00:29:05,669 --> 00:29:02,399
and having some motion in there

613
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:05,679
um allows you to stay focused

614
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:09,200
and and you know not get lazy and that's

615
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:11,039
my take and hopefully that's why roger

616
00:29:15,029 --> 00:29:13,200
put that in the film but but i've always

617
00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:15,039
felt that you know when you're sitting

618
00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:16,799
and looking at something still for a

619
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:18,320
long time

620
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:20,000
you know you get you get a little bit

621
00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:22,960
lazy well i want to thank you um for

622
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:24,480
taking the time

623
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:26,480
to come in tonight because it's a very

624
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:28,320
cool night i wanted to celebrate with

625
00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:29,360
friends

626
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:33,279
and uh and i really needed your opinion

627
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:36,159
um on the film and we'll talk more about

628
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:38,000
it in the days and weeks ahead i think

629
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:39,360
that this film's gonna have a lot of

630
00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:43,039
impact but your inside is very valuable

631
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:45,279
christina thank you so much and thank

632
00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:47,360
you invader zim

633
00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:49,279
thank you jimmy for having me on tonight

634
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:53,039
christina gomez also with us here

635
00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:57,039
on the on x network now we've got a very

636
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:59,520
busy night in front of us

637
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:01,200
we have coming up

638
00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:04,080
uh after the break richard dolan joins

639
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:06,799
us we've got linda moulton howe tonight

640
00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:09,520
we've got whitley strieber we've got

641
00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:11,919
john greenwald debbie cobble leon

642
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:16,000
kennedy and roger r richards

643
00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:18,000
we are celebrating the world premiere of

644
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:21,679
the film the observers the link to watch

645
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:23,039
the film

646
00:30:28,389 --> 00:30:25,360
is below in the video description box

647
00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:28,399
we've got it up all over social media

648
00:30:32,549 --> 00:30:30,080
and also

649
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:32,559
i now have access and so does the rest

650
00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:34,240
of the cast and crew

651
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:37,520
to hundreds of outtakes and footage from

652
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:38,640
the film

653
00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:40,880
that hasn't been released and uh i'm

654
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:43,120
gonna be springing in on you as well as

655
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:44,720
everybody else

656
00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:46,960
uh over the next week it's incredible

657
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:49,520
maybe a month i've got too much material

658
00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:51,840
way too much and it's all cool

659
00:30:54,549 --> 00:30:53,039
all right i'm here with jimmy church

660
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i'll be right back

661
00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:57,200
with richard bleep and dolan stay right

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your father's radio show

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on the game changer radio network

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00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:07,839
hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

751
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:09,200
you're listening to jimmy

752
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:14,230
what's up i'm chris what up this is kyle

753
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all right welcome back fade to black i

756
00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:36,960
am your host jimmy church tonight we are

757
00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:39,680
celebrating the world premiere

758
00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:43,119
of the observers now in worldwide

759
00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:44,560
release

760
00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:47,200
and uh coming up tonight uh right now of

761
00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:49,920
course richard dolan is joining us we

762
00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:51,920
have linda moulton howe we have whitley

763
00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:54,000
strieber john greenwald debbie cobble

764
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:55,760
leon kennedy

765
00:36:01,750 --> 00:35:58,480
and roger r richards

766
00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:01,760
and this is a celebration and i'm not

767
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:03,599
going to have

768
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:06,480
a huge long introduction

769
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:08,880
uh everybody here doesn't need an

770
00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:11,040
introduction and certainly not tonight

771
00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:12,400
and i'm also

772
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:14,560
not gonna ask richard

773
00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:17,440
about the last song that he listened to

774
00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:19,040
today i'm not gonna do it i'm gonna say

775
00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:20,720
good evening richard how you doing my

776
00:36:27,030 --> 00:36:21,680
man

777
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:27,040
see you smile and uh

778
00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:29,520
i i want to get straight to it

779
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:30,560
um

780
00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:32,800
i called you uh

781
00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:34,720
uh earlier this week and i said man

782
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:36,320
what's going on he said man i'm in the

783
00:36:40,710 --> 00:36:38,160
middle of this film church

784
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:40,720
uh i'm hanging up now

785
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:43,440
and uh and i got a click and you went

786
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:49,990
i'm proud of you man i want to thank you

787
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:52,880
uh uh it took me forever to watch it but

788
00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:54,400
it wasn't because of lack of interest i

789
00:36:57,829 --> 00:36:56,320
just didn't i just didn't get to it

790
00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:57,839
but uh

791
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:59,680
i was glad to be in it i was proud to be

792
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:01,359
in that film the observers i think it's

793
00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:03,760
really good i think it's strong

794
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:07,200
and um it was shot beautifully

795
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:08,880
i think that the folks that were in

796
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:11,280
there everyone had a particular

797
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:14,160
perspective to provide

798
00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:16,000
and um

799
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:18,960
it really covered it covered the

800
00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:19,920
the

801
00:37:24,310 --> 00:37:22,560
alien presence

802
00:37:27,109 --> 00:37:24,320
in a very

803
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:27,119
a kind of holistic way i guess we could

804
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:28,400
say

805
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:30,480
you know starting off basically talking

806
00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:32,320
about all the recent news that's gone on

807
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:34,640
in the ufo field what does that mean

808
00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:36,400
but what i really liked is that it just

809
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:39,040
went it it kind of went deeper by

810
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:41,200
degrees into

811
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:43,440
into the subterranean history of all of

812
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:46,800
us and um and then really ending with

813
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:48,640
what the hell are these beings doing to

814
00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:50,160
people like that by the time they get to

815
00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:51,760
deb kabul and interviewing her and

816
00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:53,599
people who don't know her she was the

817
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:54,960
subject of

818
00:38:01,109 --> 00:37:57,920
bud hopkins second book intruders

819
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:01,119
a major major story there

820
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:02,960
so uh

821
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:05,520
i i actually you know it was nice to see

822
00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:07,680
how the film just kept going

823
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:10,960
like layer by layer just seemingly to my

824
00:38:14,790 --> 00:38:13,200
view just going deeper into

825
00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:14,800
what are we dealing with and then of

826
00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:17,119
course uh the the future of our own

827
00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:19,920
society and civilization which

828
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:21,760
uh i'm not the only one who cares about

829
00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:23,520
that you know everyone else had

830
00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:25,040
something to say about it it was very

831
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:26,960
interesting

832
00:38:30,829 --> 00:38:28,880
i want to say this

833
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:30,839
i'm gonna do a little uh

834
00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:33,440
exposure uh here

835
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:34,400
um

836
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:36,320
something that only you and i know we

837
00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:38,720
kind of kept us away from uh the rest of

838
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:40,800
the cast and crew

839
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:45,760
um but uh you had a very bad cold

840
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:51,750
yes you so i'm sitting there uh with you

841
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:54,240
uh uh uh for everything that was shot

842
00:38:56,069 --> 00:38:55,200
and i said

843
00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:56,079
and

844
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:58,079
do you think

845
00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:59,280
richard

846
00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:01,359
b be straight with me man

847
00:39:05,109 --> 00:39:04,000
do you think the fever that you were

848
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:05,119
running

849
00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:07,119
at that time

850
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:09,520
uh allowed you

851
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:10,720
to

852
00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:13,440
uh maybe think and approach things

853
00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:16,079
differently and say because

854
00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:18,160
i was sitting there thinking about did

855
00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:19,520
richard really

856
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:21,200
just say that

857
00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:24,960
he's he's going into a zone

858
00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:27,440
right and and you and i talked after

859
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:29,839
that we spent a long time out in that

860
00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:31,440
parking lot

861
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:33,760
discussing things uh hours and hours and

862
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,240
hours um but

863
00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:38,880
uh you went there man you got into the

864
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:42,800
zone was it the fever or were you just

865
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:44,960
ready to get some things out

866
00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:46,400
it was a little of both i don't i don't

867
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:47,760
think i had a fever but i did have a

868
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:51,839
cold i was not feeling well right uh

869
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:53,440
and everyone's like oh my god do you

870
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:55,440
have covet i'm like stop

871
00:40:03,829 --> 00:39:56,960
stop

872
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:05,829
but um

873
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:14,870
you know what happens i think

874
00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:16,560
um

875
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:19,200
i i just feel like there's time is

876
00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:22,240
running short in every way like

877
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:24,800
no one has an infinite amount of time

878
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:26,560
i don't have an infinite amount of time

879
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:28,880
i've been studying the ufo subject long

880
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:30,319
enough i've been studying the world long

881
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:31,920
enough i think

882
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,599
and um

883
00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:35,280
and i i just feel like in the last few

884
00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:37,280
years for me personally a few things

885
00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:39,520
have crystallized

886
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:41,119
and uh

887
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:43,440
when i when i say that i think we are in

888
00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:45,920
the middle of a global revolution like

889
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:48,160
an orchestrated global revolution i'm

890
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,440
just going to say it at this point i'm

891
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:51,599
not going to give up and when i when i

892
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:52,400
think

893
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:54,800
that our civilization's being herded

894
00:40:58,870 --> 00:40:57,119
into one big freaking giant ant hill

895
00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:58,880
right i'm gonna say that too

896
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:01,040
so i've i've i got to a point where i

897
00:41:06,309 --> 00:41:03,119
just decided i

898
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:06,319
i just don't care anymore like i mean

899
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:09,599
i care about being accurate

900
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:12,079
i care about being respectful of other

901
00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:14,640
people even those that i disagree with

902
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:15,520
but

903
00:41:32,829 --> 00:41:16,400
i

904
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:32,839
be very well be

905
00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:35,680
uh more of a tie-in than we're really

906
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:36,880
thinking

907
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:38,800
did it i just i like to i don't want to

908
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:41,680
hold back anymore did this position uh

909
00:41:48,309 --> 00:41:45,119
that we find ourselves in today as as

910
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:48,319
hosts and researchers uh in this subject

911
00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:50,400
and i'm speaking of course of the cast

912
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:51,920
in this film

913
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:54,319
that uh this moment

914
00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:57,599
has come up on us pretty quickly and and

915
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:01,280
it is like go time now

916
00:42:07,190 --> 00:42:05,119
and we have to continue the action

917
00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:07,200
right this is not the time to relax is

918
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:08,720
it

919
00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:10,960
no unfortunately that's true and and

920
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:12,560
you're right about this happening fast

921
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:13,359
like

922
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:14,319
i

923
00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:27,680
could see

924
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:30,560
that there would be dramatic changes

925
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,599
coming

926
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:33,040
in the future

927
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:34,960
this is i i mean

928
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:36,480
i think you know this has been in the

929
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:38,400
works for a long time it's kind of

930
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:40,880
global transformation i've talked about

931
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:42,720
it i've written about it i've seen it in

932
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:45,280
my mind i knew it was happening

933
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:46,480
and yet

934
00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:48,880
this is

935
00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:51,280
so much swifter so much more

936
00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:53,040
comprehensive

937
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:54,160
than

938
00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:56,319
i had imagined i have to say like i

939
00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:58,720
could not have imagined the last

940
00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:01,280
year and a half two years almost now um

941
00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:03,520
to be as dramatic a transformation of

942
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:05,520
global society as it has been and it's

943
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:07,520
not done and it

944
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:09,599
it's not a good thing this is not a good

945
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:11,440
thing that we are in people really need

946
00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:14,960
to understand i think many people do

947
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:17,119
so uh you know in that kind of a

948
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:18,880
situation when you're standing and

949
00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:20,880
you're watching the entire civilization

950
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:23,520
that you grew up with and that you loved

951
00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:26,480
and that you knew as intimately as as a

952
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,079
person could know i've spent my whole

953
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:30,480
life studying the history of our species

954
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:32,480
the history of western civilization the

955
00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:34,319
development of global civilization like

956
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:37,440
it means a lot to me personally and when

957
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:39,440
i see it being

958
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:42,000
uh subject to really what i feel is a

959
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:44,000
fascist globe global totalitarian

960
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:45,119
takeover

961
00:43:49,510 --> 00:43:46,800
right before our eyes yeah it breaks my

962
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:49,520
heart and and i don't i just how silent

963
00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:50,880
can i be

964
00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:54,240
so some of that came out in the film and

965
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:55,520
the uh

966
00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:57,599
i don't think

967
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:01,440
that this film could have been made uh

968
00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:03,760
three four five or ten years ago and it

969
00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:05,760
wouldn't have the impact

970
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:08,560
that is certainly possible now with the

971
00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:11,440
timing of it but the other part of this

972
00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:12,560
film

973
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:15,040
is that this is current we just shot

974
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:17,760
this like a month ago right

975
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:18,800
amazing

976
00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:19,440
and

977
00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:23,280
release yeah yeah that's kind of amazing

978
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:25,040
well we you and i were we were together

979
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:26,960
in july yep that's just a couple months

980
00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:28,400
ago but i know you were shooting after

981
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:30,400
that yeah that's remarkable

982
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:32,240
uh that's a quick turnaround time and it

983
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:34,240
doesn't look like you just slapped it it

984
00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:36,480
looked it looked very nicely put

985
00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:38,000
together i gotta say

986
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:40,720
uh it's a film that i'm i'm telling you

987
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:42,960
this is not a shameless plug here but i

988
00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:44,319
am proud

989
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:45,680
to be part of it

990
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:46,800
and uh

991
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:50,560
i do want to uh recognize uh chris issa

992
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:53,359
uh the uh the the main editor of the

993
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:55,760
film who was also a cameraman who was

994
00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:57,599
also who was also

995
00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:59,359
um and

996
00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:01,440
and renee who did the she's the one who

997
00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:04,160
was uh moving around the studio shooting

998
00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:06,240
us and all these no that was i think

999
00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:08,160
you're talking about sam

1000
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:09,920
oh yeah you know what the the best part

1001
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:12,400
of uh uh we're all good

1002
00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:15,280
everybody was passionate adrian and and

1003
00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:19,119
maureen and of course leon

1004
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:21,680
all all of the crew

1005
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:22,560
you know

1006
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:25,200
they're all experiencers right and and

1007
00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:27,280
we had great conversations with them now

1008
00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:28,160
sam

1009
00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:30,319
uh there was a moment uh

1010
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:32,800
when uh we were just

1011
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:34,880
shooting and shooting and shooting

1012
00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:37,680
and uh and richard fell asleep um on

1013
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:39,599
this couch he said man i'm just gonna

1014
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:41,200
take a quick nap

1015
00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:42,960
and uh

1016
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:45,040
you know what i might have an outtake of

1017
00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:48,160
this i might have video richard 4k high

1018
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:50,720
def shot on a red one

1019
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:51,520
um

1020
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:54,880
and uh and we caught that moment i'm

1021
00:45:59,280 --> 00:45:56,640
gonna save the rest of the details for

1022
00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:59,290
later if i do really

1023
00:46:03,430 --> 00:46:00,880
[Music]

1024
00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:03,440
yeah that that was the roaming guy and

1025
00:46:08,309 --> 00:46:04,640
uh

1026
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:08,319
magical on tape um

1027
00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:11,440
what do you think the impact is because

1028
00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:13,040
i know that our community richard of

1029
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:14,800
course is going to thoroughly enjoy this

1030
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:16,560
film they're going to get it

1031
00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:19,280
uh and these are all of their favorite

1032
00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:21,760
researchers and and things that that

1033
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:23,200
happen in this film

1034
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:25,040
but this was made for the rest of the

1035
00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:26,800
world

1036
00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:28,240
how do you think the reception is going

1037
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:29,359
to be

1038
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:32,480
well i think that um what's nice about

1039
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:35,119
this is

1040
00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:37,680
i do believe that it could potentially i

1041
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:39,920
mean this is what i'm hoping for hit a

1042
00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:42,880
large audience it's not an intimidating

1043
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:45,680
movie well i mean it is and it isn't i

1044
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:48,319
mean the themes for people who haven't

1045
00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:51,119
studied or looked into ufos with any any

1046
00:46:54,550 --> 00:46:52,079
depth

1047
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:54,560
uh this treatment the observers goes

1048
00:46:58,870 --> 00:46:56,480
into some deep places that's the truth

1049
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:58,880
and and the fact is that the ufo subject

1050
00:47:01,670 --> 00:47:00,480
is a steep learning curve like this is

1051
00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:01,680
not something

1052
00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:03,440
a lot of a lot of people especially

1053
00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:04,880
people with good education i think

1054
00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:06,000
they're smarter than everyone else

1055
00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:08,480
they're like oh yes i'll grasp this i'll

1056
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,960
just uh you know i'll read whatever carl

1057
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:12,480
sagan had to say

1058
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:15,200
or or do neil degrasse tyson

1059
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:17,040
and i don't think they realize just how

1060
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:19,119
deep this goes

1061
00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:22,240
and and this film

1062
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:23,680
goes deep

1063
00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:27,040
so and it's deceptive because it starts

1064
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:29,839
it starts with the the surface kind of

1065
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:31,680
news level stuff that's been happening

1066
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:34,720
lately so it's very accessible in that

1067
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:35,680
sense

1068
00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:38,079
but you watch it you know each segment

1069
00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:39,920
takes you deeper and deeper into this

1070
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:41,040
mystery

1071
00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:42,960
so i think it's actually really well

1072
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:44,400
designed

1073
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:47,760
to appeal to a broad audience as well as

1074
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:49,119
you know folks

1075
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:50,800
like us who kind of live and breathe

1076
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:53,280
this with this subject but i do think

1077
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:55,200
it's got the ability to go

1078
00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:56,880
uh to a broad audience partly just

1079
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:59,040
because it's so visually

1080
00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:01,119
it's shot in a

1081
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:03,119
in in a really

1082
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:05,280
artistic way it's

1083
00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:06,880
i think it works i think it works really

1084
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:09,119
well so i'm hoping there was uh

1085
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:11,200
something interesting that kind of

1086
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:14,480
revealed itself to me and

1087
00:48:18,829 --> 00:48:16,240
and it's this

1088
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:18,839
and you were there for it so i've got to

1089
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:21,839
i can't wait to hear your answer or your

1090
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:25,359
insight but that is this roger

1091
00:48:30,309 --> 00:48:27,119
had a way

1092
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:30,319
of asking great questions

1093
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:31,200
but

1094
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:32,880
they

1095
00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:37,440
i think maybe the word is esoteric or

1096
00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:38,480
almost

1097
00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:41,200
uh uh a poetic

1098
00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:45,200
and i didn't quite figure things out but

1099
00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:47,440
you were there you you went through it

1100
00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:51,520
all and then you see the film and and

1101
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:54,319
you see where roger was intentionally

1102
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:55,440
going

1103
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:56,880
with all of this

1104
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:58,720
and he had

1105
00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:00,480
he had the vision

1106
00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:03,359
to weave this story together

1107
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:05,680
and put it together it was a

1108
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:07,920
pretty amazing to see that right yeah

1109
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:09,839
what people don't realize i i mean if

1110
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:11,920
you haven't if you've never shot a

1111
00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:13,839
documentary

1112
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:16,240
it's hard to appreciate so when you see

1113
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:17,920
all these talking heads on the screen

1114
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:19,599
like whether it's linda or myself or

1115
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,520
whitley or william henry or whomever

1116
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:25,520
i mean people i think realize okay so

1117
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:27,359
that that person's answering a question

1118
00:49:31,430 --> 00:49:30,480
but i don't i don't think people really

1119
00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:31,440
like

1120
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:33,200
they may not appreciate just how

1121
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:35,040
important the producer

1122
00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:36,960
to this is

1123
00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:38,880
um

1124
00:49:43,510 --> 00:49:41,920
it you know so here's roger asking

1125
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:43,520
very

1126
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:45,760
i mean i've been asked a lot of unusual

1127
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:47,280
and interesting questions over many

1128
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:49,760
years when shooting documentaries i've

1129
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:53,040
got to say roger's level of

1130
00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:54,960
interrogation or questioning or

1131
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:58,240
eliciting information was very very high

1132
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:59,280
level

1133
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:00,240
and

1134
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:03,520
was a bit

1135
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:05,040
i'm sure i wasn't the only one who was a

1136
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:06,880
bit taken aback like wow i'm thinking

1137
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:09,119
this guy i had no idea i didn't know he

1138
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:10,079
was

1139
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:13,680
me

1140
00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:17,599
questions

1141
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:19,839
so when people like if if anyone ever

1142
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:21,839
likes anything that i say

1143
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:24,160
in this film

1144
00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:26,480
like they should realize

1145
00:50:31,270 --> 00:50:27,520
uh

1146
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:31,280
that those answers were elicited by very

1147
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:33,040
outstanding questions

1148
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:34,880
that would spark

1149
00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:37,359
those types of statements by me or or

1150
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,079
linda or whomever

1151
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:42,720
these were really really i i can't even

1152
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:44,319
remember like the specific questions

1153
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:46,160
they asked me but i remember thinking

1154
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:48,240
holy crap like what

1155
00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:49,760
where did these come from

1156
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:51,839
they were very unusual and they were

1157
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:53,440
very

1158
00:50:57,510 --> 00:50:55,920
thoughtful like in the sense of

1159
00:51:00,309 --> 00:50:57,520
i could see he did a lot of homework for

1160
00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:00,319
this the word that i it's a simple word

1161
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:02,800
but clever

1162
00:51:09,349 --> 00:51:06,000
clever right clever sure um and i always

1163
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:09,359
remember uh richard a good director

1164
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:18,309
a great director does more that's right

1165
00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:19,520
do we want to tell people what that's

1166
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:20,880
from or not um

1167
00:51:24,549 --> 00:51:22,079
you know what and

1168
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:24,559
let me tell you something i watched that

1169
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:27,119
five times this week

1170
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:28,240
five

1171
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:32,559
talking about second city second city

1172
00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:34,640
television which we are both huge fans

1173
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:36,880
of huge huge fans

1174
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:37,839
and

1175
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:40,079
i directed you to this is the great

1176
00:51:45,109 --> 00:51:41,760
eugene levy

1177
00:51:46,790 --> 00:51:45,119
playing bobby bittman how are ya

1178
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:46,800
the original krusty the crown laugh by

1179
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:49,040
the way yeah yeah yeah promoting his new

1180
00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:55,829
how to make a movie plays his perfect

1181
00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:58,400
dick cavendish dick

1182
00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:00,800
he's got dick cavett down

1183
00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:03,599
oh completely it's such a such a funny

1184
00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:05,520
scene yeah whitman's the director of

1185
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:06,559
this

1186
00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:09,119
movie and he says well dick my you

1187
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:11,599
didn't ask me about my book

1188
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:14,400
so so richard okay

1189
00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:16,720
and so what led up to all of this um

1190
00:52:21,270 --> 00:52:18,880
everybody so we're talking about this

1191
00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:21,280
and then richard hits me in a in a phone

1192
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:24,240
call and he goes jimmy i mean

1193
00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:27,040
you're bobby bitman and i was like wait

1194
00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:30,640
at first at first

1195
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:32,800
you did and but the thing is i was a

1196
00:52:36,309 --> 00:52:34,960
little offended and then i thought no i

1197
00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:36,319
am right

1198
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:39,520
and uh so anyway richard

1199
00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:42,000
he did and richard goes jimmy

1200
00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:45,359
a good producer produces

1201
00:52:49,829 --> 00:52:48,079
but a great producer does more

1202
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:49,839
and that was the running joke for the

1203
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:52,400
week while we were shooting the film

1204
00:52:57,270 --> 00:52:55,119
and uh and i had to go back after all of

1205
00:53:00,309 --> 00:52:57,280
that and watch those uh scenes this week

1206
00:53:02,390 --> 00:53:00,319
on second city television um and i was

1207
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:02,400
uh i had a steve berg

1208
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:05,040
i had steve burg on the other night and

1209
00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:07,280
uh and we started getting into the

1210
00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:08,800
second city stuff

1211
00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:10,960
but i needed some second city

1212
00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:12,079
information

1213
00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:14,319
uh leading up to the show i'm like

1214
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:16,960
there's only one guy to call

1215
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:19,359
richard dolan i said richard i got a

1216
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:21,680
show in 10 minutes man i got a second

1217
00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:23,119
city question

1218
00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:25,680
and uh oh you remember uh this i'm gonna

1219
00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:27,440
share this with everybody i

1220
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:28,880
richard picks up the phone what's up

1221
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:31,200
church and i go dude this is not a ufo

1222
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:33,200
call okay

1223
00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:35,359
did i not richard

1224
00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:38,079
this is not a ufo call talking about

1225
00:53:43,349 --> 00:53:39,839
second city television

1226
00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:43,359
and i need a question answered well um

1227
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:44,160
uh

1228
00:53:50,630 --> 00:53:45,760
back to the film

1229
00:53:52,390 --> 00:53:50,640
there is uh a definite act one act two

1230
00:53:55,510 --> 00:53:52,400
and act three

1231
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:55,520
but uh it hit me

1232
00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:56,720
as

1233
00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:59,599
a definite build up there's a crescendo

1234
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:01,920
that happens at the end of the film oh

1235
00:54:07,589 --> 00:54:05,040
yes did it get uh intense for you in

1236
00:54:10,870 --> 00:54:07,599
that act three would

1237
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:10,880
yeah i think what um i think that was

1238
00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:13,040
actually my favorite

1239
00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:15,680
element of the of the film because it

1240
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:17,440
started getting into

1241
00:54:21,670 --> 00:54:20,000
questions of human existence

1242
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:21,680
you know you hear you hear guys like

1243
00:54:25,510 --> 00:54:24,400
william henry who knows an awful lot

1244
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:25,520
about

1245
00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:27,599
artificial intelligence and future tech

1246
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:29,440
it was really great to hear him talk

1247
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:30,880
about that

1248
00:54:34,630 --> 00:54:33,040
uh to hear linda

1249
00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:34,640
talk about

1250
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:38,480
you know the destiny of of mankind and

1251
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:39,359
um

1252
00:54:43,510 --> 00:54:41,920
i know i was in there and like we all

1253
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:43,520
had

1254
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:44,960
it was

1255
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:50,640
and and for deep deep truths

1256
00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:53,839
so i felt that

1257
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:55,839
it was handled it was just very very

1258
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:57,839
beautiful i liked it i was very happy

1259
00:55:03,510 --> 00:54:59,280
with it um

1260
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:03,520
the the contributions uh from whitley um

1261
00:55:08,069 --> 00:55:05,520
in the film quickly oh my goodness right

1262
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:08,079
right right and and

1263
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:10,480
and and i want to say this that uh you

1264
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:12,640
know whitley and whitley and deb cobble

1265
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:16,000
yeah deb cobble talking about well i i'm

1266
00:55:21,349 --> 00:55:18,000
sorry to jump on you let me just i just

1267
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:21,359
have to say this whitley talking about

1268
00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:23,760
what will happen if we have disclosure

1269
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:26,480
to all of us who have been abducted

1270
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:28,720
are we going to get any kind of justice

1271
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:29,920
are we going to get any kind of

1272
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:32,400
recognition for what the hell we've gone

1273
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:33,359
through

1274
00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:34,400
and and

1275
00:55:37,349 --> 00:55:35,680
and

1276
00:55:38,789 --> 00:55:37,359
like those of us who know whitley

1277
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:38,799
strieber

1278
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:40,160
like

1279
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:42,720
we know i'm gonna tell the world that

1280
00:55:49,109 --> 00:55:45,839
man has been living in pain

1281
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:49,119
you know he's famous people love him but

1282
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:50,880
he lives in pain

1283
00:55:55,510 --> 00:55:53,440
and i know he misses his dear wife anne

1284
00:55:56,549 --> 00:55:55,520
but he's he's also

1285
00:56:06,470 --> 00:55:56,559
he

1286
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:06,480
well nearly like half of a lifetime of

1287
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:08,720
alien encounters and

1288
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:10,480
and trying to understand them even now

1289
00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:12,319
the best he can and

1290
00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:14,480
and and partly feeling inspired and

1291
00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:16,640
still partly feeling violated i think

1292
00:56:21,030 --> 00:56:18,079
yes and i think you could say the same

1293
00:56:24,309 --> 00:56:21,040
about deb yeah yeah absolutely

1294
00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:24,319
and whitley uh because he has been with

1295
00:56:30,069 --> 00:56:27,599
us for so long um you know going back to

1296
00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:30,079
the 80s with communion of course we've

1297
00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:32,160
heard a lot from him

1298
00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:33,359
and and

1299
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:34,160
and

1300
00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:38,000
this for me

1301
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:42,000
i'm hearing whitley expose himself

1302
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:45,200
uh his his his emotional side like he's

1303
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:46,720
never done before

1304
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:49,920
like this is go time uh for whitley and

1305
00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:51,920
that that was very strong and he was

1306
00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:54,400
sitting in between us uh for

1307
00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:57,119
a few hours and he really had our

1308
00:57:02,789 --> 00:57:00,240
attention didn't he oh absolutely yes

1309
00:57:04,789 --> 00:57:02,799
yes yes um

1310
00:57:07,270 --> 00:57:04,799
the thing about i mean whitley is just

1311
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:07,280
he's not just a great writer he's he's

1312
00:57:12,230 --> 00:57:09,599
such a superb writer

1313
00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:12,240
i and i admire really good writing and

1314
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:14,799
there's not a lot of great writing in

1315
00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:16,720
the ufo field we just have to be honest

1316
00:57:22,630 --> 00:57:20,160
about that but he is a superb writer

1317
00:57:24,309 --> 00:57:22,640
so there's that but he's also

1318
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:24,319
you know you can just see this is a

1319
00:57:29,670 --> 00:57:27,359
deeply thoughtful man with a probing

1320
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:29,680
intellect like he's he just

1321
00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:32,400
he's very sharp and very thoughtful and

1322
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:33,280
he's

1323
00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:38,640
think in his life so everything that

1324
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:40,559
comes out is this

1325
00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:42,960
you know next level truth bomb frankly

1326
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:45,920
yeah and and and i think uh as we close

1327
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:47,280
here richard

1328
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:50,000
you said the word that i think

1329
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:52,319
uh does it for me for this movie

1330
00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:54,880
this isn't black and white

1331
00:58:02,349 --> 00:57:58,319
facts this isn't a historical

1332
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,359
uh uh narrative this is i think a deeply

1333
00:58:07,270 --> 00:58:04,559
philosophical movie

1334
00:58:09,910 --> 00:58:07,280
of uh friends that have gathered

1335
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:09,920
together to discuss this passionate

1336
00:58:13,349 --> 00:58:11,040
subject

1337
00:58:15,670 --> 00:58:13,359
from another point of view and and i

1338
00:58:19,270 --> 00:58:15,680
think that that's what has impacted me

1339
00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:20,870
sure yeah i think that that puts it

1340
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:23,280
pretty well it's a philosophical movie

1341
00:58:28,069 --> 00:58:26,079
it's a it's a philosophical say

1342
00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:28,079
exploration

1343
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:29,040
into

1344
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:30,880
what i still feel after all these years

1345
00:58:35,270 --> 00:58:32,160
is the most

1346
00:58:36,870 --> 00:58:35,280
incredible mystery of our time and and

1347
00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:36,880
probably

1348
00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:40,400
uh the most complex

1349
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:43,200
the most complex subject

1350
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:44,640
that i know of

1351
00:58:50,069 --> 00:58:47,119
i mean something that affects all of

1352
00:58:52,069 --> 00:58:50,079
world society and our destiny our very

1353
00:58:53,349 --> 00:58:52,079
destiny is a species

1354
00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:53,359
and i think yeah it was very

1355
00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:55,680
philosophically handled well always

1356
00:59:01,430 --> 00:58:59,440
remember richard a good historian

1357
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:01,440
histories

1358
00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:03,680
a great historian

1359
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:05,680
does more that's a little bit more it

1360
00:59:10,069 --> 00:59:07,599
does a little more thank you so much my

1361
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:10,079
friend uh congratulations and again for

1362
00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:11,200
myself

1363
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:14,160
and the rest of the team uh uh for the

1364
00:59:18,069 --> 00:59:16,079
observers i thank you for your

1365
00:59:21,030 --> 00:59:18,079
participation and you helped make this

1366
00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:21,040
film uh be very very special thank you

1367
00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:23,359
so much thank you it was my pleasure and

1368
00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:25,040
my honor and i was very glad to do it

1369
00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:26,480
thank you jimmy

1370
00:59:30,789 --> 00:59:28,160
richards

1371
00:59:32,470 --> 00:59:30,799
richard thank you richard richard bleep

1372
00:59:34,710 --> 00:59:32,480
and dolan thank you richard have a great

1373
00:59:36,710 --> 00:59:34,720
night again thank you so much

1374
00:59:39,670 --> 00:59:36,720
thanks jimmy uh we are celebrating the

1375
00:59:42,870 --> 00:59:39,680
world premiere of the observers

1376
00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:42,880
richard dolan coming up next linda

1377
00:59:47,589 --> 00:59:45,119
moulton howe

1378
00:59:49,109 --> 00:59:47,599
on the game changer network and the on x

1379
00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:49,119
network

1380
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:51,040
i'm your host jimmy church this is fade

1381
01:00:01,390 --> 00:59:52,720
to black stay with us we'll be right

1382
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:12,390
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1383
01:00:18,030 --> 01:00:14,549
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01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:18,040
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1385
01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:19,599
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01:04:42,390 --> 01:04:40,720
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[Music]

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01:05:07,029 --> 01:04:48,640
[Applause]

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[Music]

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01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:09,200
all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church

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01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:12,559
[Music]

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01:05:17,510 --> 01:05:14,640
i ran a hot mic during the commercial

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01:05:20,069 --> 01:05:17,520
break you guys got to hear everything

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01:05:22,630 --> 01:05:20,079
that was cool you got me you got to hear

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01:05:24,789 --> 01:05:22,640
me say here we go linda on the talk back

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01:05:26,549 --> 01:05:24,799
see normally you don't hear that stuff

1490
01:05:30,069 --> 01:05:26,559
you don't you know

1491
01:05:32,870 --> 01:05:30,079
you don't see the the uh behind the

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01:05:34,789 --> 01:05:32,880
scenes you don't hear it and also

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tonight as we celebrate the world

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premiere of the observers

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no long introductions no

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no

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we're going to go straight to it i'm

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going to say

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linda moulton howe how are you tonight

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young lady

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hello

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01:05:56,150 --> 01:05:52,319
mr church maybe you're going into the

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01:06:01,990 --> 01:06:00,069
but uh i am seriously i think that the

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01:06:05,510 --> 01:06:02,000
timing of the release

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01:06:07,670 --> 01:06:05,520
tonight officially of the observers is

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01:06:10,470 --> 01:06:07,680
perfect in the context that it was

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recently that the director of national

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01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:13,440
intelligence avril haynes when she was

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01:06:17,829 --> 01:06:15,280
asked about a report in which the

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01:06:22,150 --> 01:06:17,839
government admitted that it could not

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01:06:24,789 --> 01:06:22,160
explain 143 out of 144 military

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01:06:26,309 --> 01:06:24,799
encounters with mysterious flying

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01:06:28,390 --> 01:06:26,319
objects that the government likes to

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01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:28,400
call uaps

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01:06:34,549 --> 01:06:31,200
she said quote

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01:06:37,190 --> 01:06:34,559
there is always the question of

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01:06:40,950 --> 01:06:37,200
is there something else that we simply

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01:06:44,789 --> 01:06:40,960
do not understand that might come extra

1519
01:06:48,309 --> 01:06:44,799
terrestrially close quote and back in

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the end of the uap ufo countdown at the

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end of june

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01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:52,079
only four and a half months ago

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01:06:54,549 --> 01:06:53,280
she said

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quote

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whatever this is

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it is more complex than we can possibly

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imagine close quote and she is the most

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01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:06,640
senior government person to imply an

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01:07:12,470 --> 01:07:11,119
alien extraterrestrial link to uap ufos

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and uh

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01:07:19,349 --> 01:07:16,720
nelson the head of uh the of nasa now he

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01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:19,359
has said that he thinks that there

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01:07:25,349 --> 01:07:22,400
should be the consideration that the uap

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01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:25,359
ufo phenomena is extraterrestrial and

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01:07:30,390 --> 01:07:27,520
all of this jimmy has been happening

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01:07:33,190 --> 01:07:30,400
since the 180-day countdown yeah it's

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01:07:35,829 --> 01:07:33,200
been incredible it's been an incredible

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01:07:38,069 --> 01:07:35,839
ride and to have this film premiere in

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01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:38,079
the middle of this madness the timing

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01:07:41,029 --> 01:07:39,760
couldn't be better and linda i wanted to

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01:07:42,950 --> 01:07:41,039
ask you this

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01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:42,960
you've been uh

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01:07:48,789 --> 01:07:45,760
in production in tv in broadcast in

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media for a very long time

1545
01:07:54,630 --> 01:07:50,559
and you know

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01:08:00,470 --> 01:07:57,990
you participated in this film of course

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01:08:01,270 --> 01:08:00,480
but then you got to see it

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01:08:05,829 --> 01:08:01,280
uh

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01:08:10,470 --> 01:08:07,750
in spite of

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01:08:12,549 --> 01:08:10,480
being lighted like a halloween night in

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01:08:16,470 --> 01:08:12,559
some of the scenes and all of the other

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01:08:18,950 --> 01:08:16,480
things that you could uh look at and say

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01:08:21,349 --> 01:08:18,960
i wish we had done this and this

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01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:21,359
the the truth is that the whole 90

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minutes

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at the end it was a physical feeling at

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01:08:31,990 --> 01:08:28,400
my core

1558
01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:32,000
that this is extremely important and

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01:08:35,590 --> 01:08:33,520
that probably

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01:08:37,430 --> 01:08:35,600
nothing quite like it

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01:08:40,309 --> 01:08:37,440
in terms of

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several voices that are bringing facets

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almost like a drum roll

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01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:44,080
i think of

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01:08:49,829 --> 01:08:47,520
the feeling of watching the film unfold

1566
01:08:51,269 --> 01:08:49,839
with each of us contributing different

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01:08:53,910 --> 01:08:51,279
facets

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and feeling that the pace of it never

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01:08:58,709 --> 01:08:55,199
let up

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01:09:02,149 --> 01:08:58,719
and that by the end when it finally came

1571
01:09:05,030 --> 01:09:02,159
to an end i felt like i had been running

1572
01:09:07,829 --> 01:09:05,040
i had an actual physical feeling of

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01:09:08,789 --> 01:09:07,839
running like a physical exertion of

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01:09:11,990 --> 01:09:08,799
energy

1575
01:09:15,269 --> 01:09:12,000
as i was absorbing what i know is

1576
01:09:16,149 --> 01:09:15,279
extremely important content and i know

1577
01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:16,159
that

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01:09:23,590 --> 01:09:17,279
what

1579
01:09:25,430 --> 01:09:23,600
are facets of real truth

1580
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that the government of the united states

1581
01:09:29,829 --> 01:09:27,279
and other governments of this planet

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01:09:30,870 --> 01:09:29,839
have been hiding for certain since world

1583
01:09:33,510 --> 01:09:30,880
war ii

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01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:33,520
that is when the first discoveries

1585
01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:37,040
through foo fighters and uh silver disks

1586
01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:40,560
that could run rings around raf fighters

1587
01:09:45,669 --> 01:09:43,440
it was very clear that church uh

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01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:45,679
churchill and uh

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01:09:51,269 --> 01:09:48,480
the truman and then eisenhower

1590
01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:51,279
that mix of people they knew they knew

1591
01:09:56,229 --> 01:09:53,199
that they were dealing with something

1592
01:10:00,149 --> 01:09:56,239
that was not earthly and that's how mj

1593
01:10:01,510 --> 01:10:00,159
12 came to be born in 1947 along with

1594
01:10:02,630 --> 01:10:01,520
the cia

1595
01:10:04,870 --> 01:10:02,640
and

1596
01:10:07,189 --> 01:10:04,880
right from the beginning

1597
01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:07,199
at the time that we had

1598
01:10:12,950 --> 01:10:10,880
the various craft crashes in roswell

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01:10:16,550 --> 01:10:12,960
which may have been because we were

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01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:16,560
throwing strong microwaves at the ufos

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01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:17,920
trying to see if we could bring them

1602
01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:18,960
down

1603
01:10:25,510 --> 01:10:22,960
and maybe we did and but that wasn't the

1604
01:10:28,709 --> 01:10:25,520
end because whatever aggression we

1605
01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:28,719
applied they were able also to turn it

1606
01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:31,600
around it to their favor

1607
01:10:40,229 --> 01:10:35,040
and as len stringfield told me

1608
01:10:41,990 --> 01:10:40,239
back in the early 1980s he said from his

1609
01:10:44,310 --> 01:10:42,000
own experience in the air force that

1610
01:10:46,870 --> 01:10:44,320
there was a standing order to try to

1611
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:46,880
bring down ufos our government wanted

1612
01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:48,400
the technology

1613
01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:51,840
and that that aggression brought

1614
01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:53,280
on us

1615
01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:57,120
the bringing down of pilots and planes

1616
01:11:01,189 --> 01:10:58,480
in crashes

1617
01:11:03,830 --> 01:11:01,199
and that eventually as i understand it

1618
01:11:07,110 --> 01:11:03,840
from len stringfield that began to

1619
01:11:09,990 --> 01:11:07,120
evolve a very uneasy

1620
01:11:12,950 --> 01:11:10,000
standoff to a certain extent

1621
01:11:16,470 --> 01:11:12,960
now today in 2021

1622
01:11:19,350 --> 01:11:16,480
it's my understanding that we have gone

1623
01:11:20,470 --> 01:11:19,360
quite a bit further in establishing some

1624
01:11:22,709 --> 01:11:20,480
kind

1625
01:11:25,910 --> 01:11:22,719
of communication

1626
01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:25,920
with beings that are more humanoid not

1627
01:11:31,270 --> 01:11:29,600
grays and not reptilians and that we

1628
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:31,280
actually are

1629
01:11:37,510 --> 01:11:34,800
working in some kind of a collaboration

1630
01:11:38,790 --> 01:11:37,520
uh that would help the earth not hurt

1631
01:11:40,709 --> 01:11:38,800
the earth

1632
01:11:43,990 --> 01:11:40,719
and i don't think that those are

1633
01:11:45,270 --> 01:11:44,000
sugar-coated fantasy words i think it is

1634
01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:45,280
happening

1635
01:11:47,910 --> 01:11:46,080
but

1636
01:11:50,149 --> 01:11:47,920
the bigger

1637
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:50,159
issue of all of this

1638
01:11:57,510 --> 01:11:54,800
is that we are in a universe like earth

1639
01:12:00,229 --> 01:11:57,520
there are friendlies there are neutrals

1640
01:12:01,669 --> 01:12:00,239
and there are hostiles and there are

1641
01:12:03,510 --> 01:12:01,679
wars

1642
01:12:06,830 --> 01:12:03,520
just like earth

1643
01:12:11,030 --> 01:12:06,840
and that whatever the future is going to

1644
01:12:13,590 --> 01:12:11,040
bring we humans have got to grow up we

1645
01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:13,600
have got to get out of this strange

1646
01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:16,320
policy of silence and denial for

1647
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:19,040
millennia by power brokers that we're

1648
01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:20,880
not supposed to know that we're in a

1649
01:12:25,990 --> 01:12:23,360
universe teeming with consciousness and

1650
01:12:27,270 --> 01:12:26,000
that not all is rosy

1651
01:12:30,310 --> 01:12:27,280
and once

1652
01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:30,320
that becomes the landscape once we have

1653
01:12:34,390 --> 01:12:32,400
that headline that goes around the world

1654
01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:34,400
in every single language

1655
01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:36,480
we're not alone in this universe

1656
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:38,640
and we don't have all the answers

1657
01:12:43,590 --> 01:12:41,040
but we are now we feel that we can tell

1658
01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:43,600
you we have allies

1659
01:12:49,270 --> 01:12:46,239
and we're moving into a brand new age

1660
01:12:51,590 --> 01:12:49,280
where we really be expanding out into

1661
01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:51,600
our own solar system and beyond and

1662
01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:54,000
that's where this is headed as far as i

1663
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:55,760
can see now

1664
01:13:01,990 --> 01:12:59,360
there was a certain vibe or vibration on

1665
01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:02,000
the set of the film where we have

1666
01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:05,280
this group of friends we all gather

1667
01:13:10,550 --> 01:13:07,679
uh to do this production and there was a

1668
01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:10,560
high vibration there and we were all in

1669
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:13,120
in such great spirits but

1670
01:13:19,030 --> 01:13:17,440
uh that's great but the the crew

1671
01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:19,040
was also there with this in that

1672
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:21,760
vibration which leads me to

1673
01:13:26,550 --> 01:13:25,440
uh director roger richard's style of

1674
01:13:28,790 --> 01:13:26,560
shooting

1675
01:13:32,229 --> 01:13:28,800
and asking questions

1676
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:32,239
and and i i was listening to the way

1677
01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:33,120
that

1678
01:13:39,510 --> 01:13:36,320
um you know this tapestry of of

1679
01:13:42,550 --> 01:13:39,520
questions and the flow of it with you

1680
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:42,560
and it brought stuff out of you that i

1681
01:13:50,630 --> 01:13:47,040
was so happy about but i was thinking is

1682
01:13:53,430 --> 01:13:50,640
is is linda aware of this

1683
01:13:56,709 --> 01:13:53,440
open consciousness that she's doing

1684
01:13:58,229 --> 01:13:56,719
right now and you you i i felt that you

1685
01:14:00,870 --> 01:13:58,239
were able to

1686
01:14:03,270 --> 01:14:00,880
to go to places that maybe you haven't

1687
01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:03,280
had that opportunity before

1688
01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:05,040
and there was things that contributed to

1689
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:07,360
that but did you get the same feel the

1690
01:14:18,149 --> 01:14:13,189
well

1691
01:14:22,229 --> 01:14:21,110
i had the dilemma

1692
01:14:25,669 --> 01:14:22,239
do i

1693
01:14:28,460 --> 01:14:25,679
remain slightly reserved right

1694
01:14:30,310 --> 01:14:28,470
in the content right and

1695
01:14:34,070 --> 01:14:30,320
[Music]

1696
01:14:36,310 --> 01:14:34,080
when they blasted me with that spotlight

1697
01:14:37,830 --> 01:14:36,320
with cameras all around

1698
01:14:40,709 --> 01:14:37,840
that's what i call the halloween

1699
01:14:43,830 --> 01:14:40,719
lighting sure shows

1700
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:43,840
it shows every one of your uh weaknesses

1701
01:14:47,270 --> 01:14:45,600
and strengths

1702
01:14:54,149 --> 01:14:47,280
and

1703
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:54,159
there was a feeling inside myself that

1704
01:14:58,390 --> 01:14:56,480
the surrounding and the environment and

1705
01:15:01,030 --> 01:14:58,400
the production and all of it

1706
01:15:04,709 --> 01:15:01,040
sort of began to fade away

1707
01:15:05,990 --> 01:15:04,719
and i found that where i was then i was

1708
01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:06,000
speaking

1709
01:15:11,110 --> 01:15:06,800
from

1710
01:15:13,910 --> 01:15:11,120
inside of myself out and when i hit that

1711
01:15:16,470 --> 01:15:13,920
level which i can't push a button and do

1712
01:15:18,550 --> 01:15:16,480
right but when i hit that level it's

1713
01:15:21,750 --> 01:15:18,560
like a different gear shift

1714
01:15:24,390 --> 01:15:21,760
and i know that where it's coming from

1715
01:15:27,270 --> 01:15:24,400
is a truth that this particular

1716
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:27,280
soul spirit and body

1717
01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:28,800
has had

1718
01:15:34,870 --> 01:15:32,159
some insight directly or indirectly and

1719
01:15:37,270 --> 01:15:34,880
i feel that the material

1720
01:15:40,390 --> 01:15:37,280
takes on kind of an energy and life of

1721
01:15:42,950 --> 01:15:40,400
its own and that definitely happened uh

1722
01:15:44,870 --> 01:15:42,960
sitting on that riser with that strong

1723
01:15:45,669 --> 01:15:44,880
spotlight on me

1724
01:15:46,709 --> 01:15:45,679
uh

1725
01:15:48,550 --> 01:15:46,719
because

1726
01:15:50,229 --> 01:15:48,560
i remember

1727
01:15:52,950 --> 01:15:50,239
it's probably you have to

1728
01:15:56,229 --> 01:15:52,960
you're aware in the beginning of all of

1729
01:15:58,149 --> 01:15:56,239
the physical world around you and uh

1730
01:16:00,390 --> 01:15:58,159
that's where you're worried about this

1731
01:16:01,750 --> 01:16:00,400
and worried about that and

1732
01:16:05,110 --> 01:16:01,760
and then

1733
01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:05,120
when this other gear takes place

1734
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:09,280
all of that just fades away and

1735
01:16:14,149 --> 01:16:11,440
whatever is

1736
01:16:16,709 --> 01:16:14,159
energizing that release

1737
01:16:18,310 --> 01:16:16,719
it seems to me that as far as i'm

1738
01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:18,320
concerned

1739
01:16:25,110 --> 01:16:21,760
it's it's the best i can give at that

1740
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:25,120
moment in time of what i have learned

1741
01:16:29,910 --> 01:16:27,520
and that's what i hoped to contribute to

1742
01:16:31,110 --> 01:16:29,920
the observers and when i watched the

1743
01:16:33,430 --> 01:16:31,120
film

1744
01:16:35,270 --> 01:16:33,440
i feel that that happened

1745
01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:35,280
you enter that tunnel

1746
01:16:40,229 --> 01:16:37,920
right yeah it's like a tunnel

1747
01:16:43,270 --> 01:16:40,239
yeah uh you're absolutely right about

1748
01:16:44,470 --> 01:16:43,280
that everything goes fuzzy um

1749
01:16:49,350 --> 01:16:44,480
and

1750
01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:49,360
uh roger

1751
01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:52,560
uh in a conversational way

1752
01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:55,440
is very deliberate i used the word

1753
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:58,400
clever earlier very clever because

1754
01:17:01,990 --> 01:16:59,760
we don't know

1755
01:17:05,110 --> 01:17:02,000
what's in his mind where the film is

1756
01:17:07,510 --> 01:17:05,120
going to go he did he's thinking 3d

1757
01:17:09,910 --> 01:17:07,520
through all of these interviews

1758
01:17:12,229 --> 01:17:09,920
and then you see it woven together in

1759
01:17:13,669 --> 01:17:12,239
the film you're like that's where he was

1760
01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:13,679
going

1761
01:17:16,870 --> 01:17:14,880
oh

1762
01:17:20,709 --> 01:17:16,880
okay right and

1763
01:17:23,750 --> 01:17:20,719
and and the film ends up telling this

1764
01:17:25,110 --> 01:17:23,760
this story it's got a beginning a middle

1765
01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:25,120
and an end

1766
01:17:28,070 --> 01:17:27,120
and it was really well done i was so

1767
01:17:31,110 --> 01:17:28,080
happy

1768
01:17:33,430 --> 01:17:31,120
uh were you surprised to to feel that

1769
01:17:35,990 --> 01:17:33,440
storyline the act one act two and act

1770
01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:36,000
three and in the way that the crescendo

1771
01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:39,760
ended on debbie's last words

1772
01:17:46,709 --> 01:17:43,360
well to me i am so glad that

1773
01:17:49,350 --> 01:17:46,719
i asked if she could participate

1774
01:17:52,709 --> 01:17:49,360
uh because i think that she was an

1775
01:17:54,310 --> 01:17:52,719
eloquent voice of every man every woman

1776
01:17:56,950 --> 01:17:54,320
every child

1777
01:17:59,350 --> 01:17:56,960
who has had interactions with the

1778
01:18:02,709 --> 01:17:59,360
non-human and that is absolutely

1779
01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:02,719
happening on this planet that is uh not

1780
01:18:07,750 --> 01:18:04,880
some conspiracy

1781
01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:07,760
theory this has been happening really

1782
01:18:14,550 --> 01:18:11,360
for millennia and her voice was very

1783
01:18:16,870 --> 01:18:14,560
important for the every man who out

1784
01:18:18,470 --> 01:18:16,880
there the people who have been afraid to

1785
01:18:21,910 --> 01:18:18,480
talk because they didn't want to be

1786
01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:21,920
ridiculed we have to come to terms with

1787
01:18:27,510 --> 01:18:23,920
what is actually happening on this

1788
01:18:30,470 --> 01:18:27,520
planet and that is to me that's the

1789
01:18:33,830 --> 01:18:30,480
gestalt of the observers

1790
01:18:36,390 --> 01:18:33,840
coming to terms honestly

1791
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:36,400
for the first time about what is

1792
01:18:41,830 --> 01:18:38,239
actually happening

1793
01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:41,840
on this planet between humans

1794
01:18:45,669 --> 01:18:44,080
and other life forms and advanced

1795
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:45,679
intelligences

1796
01:18:50,950 --> 01:18:48,560
and that as it evolved

1797
01:18:52,229 --> 01:18:50,960
from the extraordinarily beautiful

1798
01:18:56,070 --> 01:18:52,239
opening

1799
01:18:58,390 --> 01:18:56,080
music and uh credit scene

1800
01:18:59,990 --> 01:18:58,400
and picked up that rhythm they kept

1801
01:19:02,870 --> 01:19:00,000
going through

1802
01:19:04,229 --> 01:19:02,880
voices and voices and voices

1803
01:19:05,430 --> 01:19:04,239
in rhythms

1804
01:19:07,669 --> 01:19:05,440
it was

1805
01:19:10,870 --> 01:19:07,679
it is that the film

1806
01:19:12,310 --> 01:19:10,880
is what is so much greater by the time

1807
01:19:14,310 --> 01:19:12,320
you reach the end

1808
01:19:15,510 --> 01:19:14,320
than any part of it

1809
01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:15,520
and that is

1810
01:19:19,110 --> 01:19:17,760
what you want you want the power of a

1811
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:19,120
whole piece

1812
01:19:24,229 --> 01:19:21,520
and that's what the observers give

1813
01:19:26,310 --> 01:19:24,239
now uh

1814
01:19:29,110 --> 01:19:26,320
what do you think the impact is going to

1815
01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:29,120
be outside of our community is the world

1816
01:19:38,070 --> 01:19:37,030
well we're probably in an experiment to

1817
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:38,080
see

1818
01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:39,040
um

1819
01:19:43,510 --> 01:19:41,120
i know that

1820
01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:43,520
in my earth files youtube channel

1821
01:19:48,950 --> 01:19:46,320
that i have been doing now since uh the

1822
01:19:52,149 --> 01:19:48,960
fall of 2017

1823
01:19:54,070 --> 01:19:52,159
and we are about to break through 190

1824
01:19:57,030 --> 01:19:54,080
000 subscribers

1825
01:19:59,750 --> 01:19:57,040
and i'm getting uh communications from

1826
01:20:01,669 --> 01:19:59,760
around the world now more than ever

1827
01:20:05,270 --> 01:20:01,679
and uh from

1828
01:20:07,750 --> 01:20:05,280
countries uh all over the place and

1829
01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:07,760
many many i i would say

1830
01:20:13,030 --> 01:20:10,400
all of the states of the united states i

1831
01:20:15,189 --> 01:20:13,040
now am getting communication

1832
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:15,199
and in

1833
01:20:19,590 --> 01:20:17,280
that acceleration

1834
01:20:21,189 --> 01:20:19,600
and it has been an acceleration since i

1835
01:20:23,189 --> 01:20:21,199
started doing the air files youtube

1836
01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:23,199
channel

1837
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:25,600
the communication

1838
01:20:30,550 --> 01:20:28,000
has moved from

1839
01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:30,560
original questions about

1840
01:20:33,669 --> 01:20:32,480
is it true that

1841
01:20:35,110 --> 01:20:33,679
what about

1842
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:35,120
this

1843
01:20:38,390 --> 01:20:36,880
it's now

1844
01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:38,400
powerful

1845
01:20:43,430 --> 01:20:40,719
personal communications

1846
01:20:47,669 --> 01:20:43,440
about interactions with non-humans

1847
01:20:51,110 --> 01:20:47,679
interactions with sasquatch interactions

1848
01:20:54,229 --> 01:20:51,120
with beams of light interactions with

1849
01:20:56,870 --> 01:20:54,239
the small to large balls of light

1850
01:20:59,270 --> 01:20:56,880
interactions with a variety of different

1851
01:21:02,629 --> 01:20:59,280
beings it can be in a bedroom it can be

1852
01:21:05,350 --> 01:21:02,639
in a car it can be in a fishing boat

1853
01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:05,360
and it's as if

1854
01:21:08,870 --> 01:21:07,760
something is releasing

1855
01:21:12,229 --> 01:21:08,880
people

1856
01:21:13,430 --> 01:21:12,239
to be telling their stories in such

1857
01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:13,440
detail

1858
01:21:17,430 --> 01:21:15,040
that i have

1859
01:21:18,629 --> 01:21:17,440
hundreds and hundreds of letters in

1860
01:21:21,189 --> 01:21:18,639
files

1861
01:21:23,669 --> 01:21:21,199
that some of them are so powerful it's

1862
01:21:26,550 --> 01:21:23,679
like what do we do

1863
01:21:29,189 --> 01:21:26,560
some people do not want to be identified

1864
01:21:33,189 --> 01:21:29,199
now because of the government

1865
01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:33,199
sledgehammer uh going to anybody who

1866
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:34,480
back in

1867
01:21:39,189 --> 01:21:36,960
roswell when mack brazil

1868
01:21:42,149 --> 01:21:39,199
had gone to the sheriff

1869
01:21:43,270 --> 01:21:42,159
he had seen bodies that was confirmed

1870
01:21:46,470 --> 01:21:43,280
for me

1871
01:21:50,070 --> 01:21:46,480
by one of the radio uh broadcasters in

1872
01:21:51,350 --> 01:21:50,080
roswell in 47 who knew mack brazel the

1873
01:21:54,550 --> 01:21:51,360
rancher

1874
01:21:57,750 --> 01:21:54,560
who lived between corona and roswell and

1875
01:21:59,990 --> 01:21:57,760
he's the one who at the 4th of july

1876
01:22:01,750 --> 01:22:00,000
weekend in 1947

1877
01:22:04,709 --> 01:22:01,760
he had found

1878
01:22:06,550 --> 01:22:04,719
all this silver material and

1879
01:22:10,709 --> 01:22:06,560
strange thin

1880
01:22:14,070 --> 01:22:10,719
beige colored uh uh sort of like

1881
01:22:17,430 --> 01:22:14,080
sticks sounds too primitive um

1882
01:22:19,990 --> 01:22:17,440
rods that had purple on them and he

1883
01:22:23,590 --> 01:22:20,000
didn't know what it was and he went

1884
01:22:25,750 --> 01:22:23,600
to the sheriff in roswell over that

1885
01:22:27,510 --> 01:22:25,760
fourth of july weekend and he said

1886
01:22:28,870 --> 01:22:27,520
somebody has to come out and look at

1887
01:22:29,669 --> 01:22:28,880
this

1888
01:22:31,189 --> 01:22:29,679
well

1889
01:22:33,350 --> 01:22:31,199
i ended up

1890
01:22:35,990 --> 01:22:33,360
doing a lot of interviews with people

1891
01:22:37,270 --> 01:22:36,000
who had lived in roswell in july 47 at

1892
01:22:40,629 --> 01:22:37,280
one point

1893
01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:40,639
and one of them was a host of a radio

1894
01:22:45,830 --> 01:22:43,760
program and a good friend of mack brazel

1895
01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:45,840
and said it was the week

1896
01:22:51,990 --> 01:22:47,440
after

1897
01:22:53,270 --> 01:22:52,000
to the sheriff

1898
01:22:57,110 --> 01:22:53,280
and

1899
01:22:59,910 --> 01:22:57,120
the radio host was on the air

1900
01:23:01,350 --> 01:22:59,920
and the door opened and he kept talking

1901
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:01,360
into the mic

1902
01:23:06,790 --> 01:23:03,760
he recognized who was coming into his

1903
01:23:09,189 --> 01:23:06,800
radio studio it was mac brazil

1904
01:23:11,910 --> 01:23:09,199
and he did one of those hunch with the

1905
01:23:13,830 --> 01:23:11,920
shoulders and eyebrows up like hey i'm

1906
01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:13,840
i'm working here

1907
01:23:19,590 --> 01:23:16,960
and it didn't stop mac brazil coming in

1908
01:23:21,189 --> 01:23:19,600
and that really got to him he said when

1909
01:23:23,430 --> 01:23:21,199
mack didn't stop

1910
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:23,440
and go out i knew that something serious

1911
01:23:26,790 --> 01:23:25,440
was going down because he was a serious

1912
01:23:29,030 --> 01:23:26,800
man

1913
01:23:32,149 --> 01:23:29,040
and the radio broadcaster said mack

1914
01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:32,159
walked right over to standing right in

1915
01:23:35,669 --> 01:23:33,280
front of him

1916
01:23:37,830 --> 01:23:35,679
who while he's still on the air is still

1917
01:23:39,510 --> 01:23:37,840
talking to the microphone

1918
01:23:42,229 --> 01:23:39,520
and mac brazil

1919
01:23:44,070 --> 01:23:42,239
fell back so to speak a few inches

1920
01:23:46,629 --> 01:23:44,080
against the wall

1921
01:23:48,550 --> 01:23:46,639
and his shoulders slid

1922
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:48,560
down the wall

1923
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:52,320
to where he was now on the floor

1924
01:23:56,709 --> 01:23:55,040
and frank said i hurried to get off the

1925
01:23:58,950 --> 01:23:56,719
air

1926
01:24:00,229 --> 01:23:58,960
and went into a commercial

1927
01:24:02,870 --> 01:24:00,239
and said

1928
01:24:05,830 --> 01:24:02,880
what is wrong mac

1929
01:24:08,470 --> 01:24:05,840
and he said mac brazil looked up at him

1930
01:24:11,350 --> 01:24:08,480
from the floor as if he was at the end

1931
01:24:13,669 --> 01:24:11,360
of his rope and said

1932
01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:13,679
they're not green

1933
01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:16,320
they're gray

1934
01:24:23,990 --> 01:24:18,480
wow

1935
01:24:26,550 --> 01:24:24,000
july 1947

1936
01:24:28,870 --> 01:24:26,560
to his good friend in the radio studio

1937
01:24:31,189 --> 01:24:28,880
and then that radio studio man never

1938
01:24:32,470 --> 01:24:31,199
told anybody

1939
01:24:34,629 --> 01:24:32,480
because mac

1940
01:24:38,229 --> 01:24:34,639
told him not to

1941
01:24:39,990 --> 01:24:38,239
and i'm sharing this because this

1942
01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:40,000
this shows

1943
01:24:44,709 --> 01:24:42,880
everybody who was involved back in 47

1944
01:24:46,629 --> 01:24:44,719
there were a lot of people who knew this

1945
01:24:48,950 --> 01:24:46,639
was real and that the government came in

1946
01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:48,960
like a sledgehammer and told everybody

1947
01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:51,360
to keep their mouth shut

1948
01:24:55,030 --> 01:24:54,000
including mac brazil are we

1949
01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:55,040
um

1950
01:24:58,870 --> 01:24:56,480
are we

1951
01:25:01,030 --> 01:24:58,880
still under that kind of pressure from

1952
01:25:04,390 --> 01:25:01,040
the government today

1953
01:25:06,470 --> 01:25:04,400
last night in uh one of my segments on

1954
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:06,480
my earth files youtube channel i had an

1955
01:25:10,709 --> 01:25:07,920
interview

1956
01:25:14,470 --> 01:25:10,719
with a man who has asked me not to give

1957
01:25:17,750 --> 01:25:14,480
his name asked me to voice alter still

1958
01:25:23,189 --> 01:25:21,110
the state is massachusetts

1959
01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:23,199
where this occurred

1960
01:25:31,669 --> 01:25:27,840
it was three years ago in 2018

1961
01:25:33,750 --> 01:25:31,679
he is in the health care world

1962
01:25:36,390 --> 01:25:33,760
he works in hospitals

1963
01:25:37,510 --> 01:25:36,400
but he also because of the way he was

1964
01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:37,520
raised

1965
01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:41,040
he will hire himself out to herd cattle

1966
01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:44,080
and do ranch stuff he loves that

1967
01:25:48,709 --> 01:25:46,080
that's almost like a vacation for him

1968
01:25:50,950 --> 01:25:48,719
but he also makes income

1969
01:25:52,709 --> 01:25:50,960
and he had been hired

1970
01:25:55,030 --> 01:25:52,719
by a farmer

1971
01:25:58,709 --> 01:25:55,040
that lived in the vicinity where he was

1972
01:26:01,669 --> 01:25:58,719
at that time three years ago in 2018

1973
01:26:03,110 --> 01:26:01,679
and they were

1974
01:26:04,229 --> 01:26:03,120
getting ready

1975
01:26:05,590 --> 01:26:04,239
to

1976
01:26:06,790 --> 01:26:05,600
go out

1977
01:26:09,430 --> 01:26:06,800
to gather

1978
01:26:13,030 --> 01:26:09,440
a herd of 54

1979
01:26:14,149 --> 01:26:13,040
cattle to move pastures okay

1980
01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:14,159
and

1981
01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:16,239
my interviewee

1982
01:26:19,830 --> 01:26:18,000
uh personally

1983
01:26:23,030 --> 01:26:19,840
went on the search

1984
01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:23,040
to round up those 54 cattle

1985
01:26:28,550 --> 01:26:25,760
and he could only find 53

1986
01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:28,560
got them back with help to the farm and

1987
01:26:33,750 --> 01:26:31,440
he said to the guy he was working with

1988
01:26:36,950 --> 01:26:33,760
we got to do something we got to find

1989
01:26:39,430 --> 01:26:36,960
that 54th cow because the owner who's

1990
01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:39,440
paying us he's depending upon us to get

1991
01:26:45,350 --> 01:26:42,239
back 54 cows round it up

1992
01:26:48,149 --> 01:26:45,360
linda i've got i've got four minutes uh

1993
01:26:50,070 --> 01:26:48,159
before the break and i'll just finish it

1994
01:26:51,750 --> 01:26:50,080
this way

1995
01:26:55,030 --> 01:26:51,760
he took off

1996
01:26:56,790 --> 01:26:55,040
rode for 20 minutes

1997
01:26:57,910 --> 01:26:56,800
nothing couldn't see anything on the

1998
01:27:00,709 --> 01:26:57,920
flat

1999
01:27:02,709 --> 01:27:00,719
and there was a big hill pasture high

2000
01:27:04,629 --> 01:27:02,719
rose right up from the flat land and he

2001
01:27:06,709 --> 01:27:04,639
said i'm going to go up there

2002
01:27:09,350 --> 01:27:06,719
and he said he got right up to the top

2003
01:27:10,470 --> 01:27:09,360
of this hill hill pasture

2004
01:27:13,270 --> 01:27:10,480
and there

2005
01:27:14,629 --> 01:27:13,280
was the missing cow as if it had been

2006
01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:14,639
plopped down

2007
01:27:22,629 --> 01:27:19,360
no struggle no tracks not a single track

2008
01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:22,639
around the mutilated animal on the top

2009
01:27:29,270 --> 01:27:26,080
of a hill any blood

2010
01:27:30,229 --> 01:27:29,280
nothing no no dry dry and

2011
01:27:34,629 --> 01:27:30,239
and

2012
01:27:36,950 --> 01:27:34,639
sheriffs who have had me come to do

2013
01:27:39,990 --> 01:27:36,960
investigations with them in montana and

2014
01:27:41,910 --> 01:27:40,000
canada and various other places and one

2015
01:27:44,149 --> 01:27:41,920
of the first things that i have always

2016
01:27:47,110 --> 01:27:44,159
looked for there are certain signs in

2017
01:27:49,189 --> 01:27:47,120
the ground because there are so many

2018
01:27:51,669 --> 01:27:49,199
evidentiary pieces

2019
01:27:54,229 --> 01:27:51,679
that you can prove through soil

2020
01:27:56,870 --> 01:27:54,239
compression that an animal has been

2021
01:27:59,910 --> 01:27:56,880
dropped you can even determine how high

2022
01:28:02,870 --> 01:27:59,920
it was when it was dropped to the ground

2023
01:28:06,550 --> 01:28:02,880
it's in a crater and that's why they can

2024
01:28:09,669 --> 01:28:06,560
have bro broken bro bones on the inside

2025
01:28:12,390 --> 01:28:09,679
and that in this case it's so clear that

2026
01:28:14,629 --> 01:28:12,400
all these places where sometimes they've

2027
01:28:16,709 --> 01:28:14,639
been dropped sometimes they have been

2028
01:28:19,750 --> 01:28:16,719
brought down by a technology that just

2029
01:28:21,830 --> 01:28:19,760
freezes them in a spot like on the hill

2030
01:28:24,790 --> 01:28:21,840
or they were brought up and dropped back

2031
01:28:26,310 --> 01:28:24,800
on that hill any way you cut it it

2032
01:28:30,629 --> 01:28:26,320
reinforces

2033
01:28:33,590 --> 01:28:30,639
what ranchers and sheriffs and deputies

2034
01:28:36,070 --> 01:28:33,600
and i've talked with hundreds of people

2035
01:28:38,709 --> 01:28:36,080
have even seen the beams coming out of

2036
01:28:41,110 --> 01:28:38,719
round circles of light in the sky

2037
01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:41,120
they've even seen animals rising in

2038
01:28:46,470 --> 01:28:43,600
beams of light or being lowered in beams

2039
01:28:48,950 --> 01:28:46,480
of light and in 79 to 80 when i started

2040
01:28:51,430 --> 01:28:48,960
working on a strange harvest they would

2041
01:28:54,149 --> 01:28:51,440
not stand in front of a camera but they

2042
01:28:57,270 --> 01:28:54,159
would tell me what they had seen

2043
01:28:58,229 --> 01:28:57,280
this story of 2018 that i had on last

2044
01:28:59,750 --> 01:28:58,239
night

2045
01:29:00,790 --> 01:28:59,760
the kicker

2046
01:29:02,390 --> 01:29:00,800
is that

2047
01:29:03,669 --> 01:29:02,400
the owner

2048
01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:03,679
called

2049
01:29:08,709 --> 01:29:06,080
otis air force base

2050
01:29:10,790 --> 01:29:08,719
and asked for somebody to come and

2051
01:29:12,070 --> 01:29:10,800
investigate what had happened to his

2052
01:29:15,030 --> 01:29:12,080
animal

2053
01:29:17,270 --> 01:29:15,040
and afos i the air force office of

2054
01:29:19,189 --> 01:29:17,280
special investigations showed up in a

2055
01:29:21,110 --> 01:29:19,199
big black suburban

2056
01:29:24,470 --> 01:29:21,120
and they ordered

2057
01:29:27,910 --> 01:29:24,480
the my interviewee the rancher

2058
01:29:29,510 --> 01:29:27,920
everybody to keep their mouths shut and

2059
01:29:30,870 --> 01:29:29,520
never talk

2060
01:29:33,990 --> 01:29:30,880
or

2061
01:29:36,070 --> 01:29:34,000
some night they would find that they had

2062
01:29:37,990 --> 01:29:36,080
reached their end

2063
01:29:39,110 --> 01:29:38,000
and i said you mean that you were

2064
01:29:41,590 --> 01:29:39,120
threatened

2065
01:29:44,070 --> 01:29:41,600
you're an american citizen their

2066
01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:44,080
military and he said i said to him

2067
01:29:48,310 --> 01:29:46,480
i am an american citizen i don't take

2068
01:29:51,030 --> 01:29:48,320
orders from the military

2069
01:29:53,510 --> 01:29:51,040
and the man said and

2070
01:29:57,750 --> 01:29:53,520
uh i don't take orders from the military

2071
01:30:00,709 --> 01:29:57,760
and the man in the afosi badge said

2072
01:30:02,709 --> 01:30:00,719
just try me

2073
01:30:05,830 --> 01:30:02,719
now that is part

2074
01:30:08,790 --> 01:30:05,840
of the interspecial social

2075
01:30:12,629 --> 01:30:08,800
of the relationship since world war ii

2076
01:30:14,550 --> 01:30:12,639
of all this tension between military and

2077
01:30:16,870 --> 01:30:14,560
police and the

2078
01:30:19,830 --> 01:30:16,880
war office first and then eventually the

2079
01:30:21,350 --> 01:30:19,840
pentagon with the american citizenry on

2080
01:30:23,830 --> 01:30:21,360
this whole question

2081
01:30:25,750 --> 01:30:23,840
of we're not alone in this universe

2082
01:30:28,229 --> 01:30:25,760
there are animal mutilations are being

2083
01:30:30,070 --> 01:30:28,239
done by other intelligences people are

2084
01:30:31,189 --> 01:30:30,080
being taken those are the human

2085
01:30:33,830 --> 01:30:31,199
abductions

2086
01:30:35,669 --> 01:30:33,840
there are all kinds of hard physical

2087
01:30:36,870 --> 01:30:35,679
evidence and the government has had a

2088
01:30:39,669 --> 01:30:36,880
policy

2089
01:30:42,070 --> 01:30:39,679
no one is to know

2090
01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:42,080
and right from the get-go i personally

2091
01:30:45,750 --> 01:30:44,320
think that weakens the entire human

2092
01:30:48,870 --> 01:30:45,760
civilization

2093
01:30:51,910 --> 01:30:48,880
and that right now the observers

2094
01:30:55,030 --> 01:30:51,920
could be the beginning finally

2095
01:30:57,590 --> 01:30:55,040
of the period on earth for the first

2096
01:30:59,990 --> 01:30:57,600
time in thousands of years

2097
01:31:01,510 --> 01:31:00,000
that the power brokers let go

2098
01:31:05,669 --> 01:31:01,520
and tell the truth

2099
01:31:07,910 --> 01:31:05,679
linda linda thank you uh on behalf of uh

2100
01:31:09,590 --> 01:31:07,920
the entire uh crew

2101
01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:09,600
of the observers

2102
01:31:15,430 --> 01:31:12,560
thank you you helped make this movie so

2103
01:31:18,390 --> 01:31:15,440
special and thank you for sharing this

2104
01:31:19,510 --> 01:31:18,400
very uh amazing and special night with

2105
01:31:22,149 --> 01:31:19,520
me here

2106
01:31:24,550 --> 01:31:22,159
and uh the rest of the fader knots and

2107
01:31:26,310 --> 01:31:24,560
i'll talk to you tomorrow have a great

2108
01:31:28,709 --> 01:31:26,320
night thank you linda

2109
01:31:31,510 --> 01:31:28,719
god bless you jimmy you're the best

2110
01:31:33,910 --> 01:31:31,520
linda moulton howe i am your host jimmy

2111
01:31:38,950 --> 01:31:37,030
linda's contributions to the observers

2112
01:31:41,189 --> 01:31:38,960
is is just incredible the links for the

2113
01:31:43,590 --> 01:31:41,199
movie to watch it right now

2114
01:31:46,229 --> 01:31:43,600
are below in the description box i am

2115
01:31:47,830 --> 01:31:46,239
your host jimmy church we're continuing

2116
01:31:50,070 --> 01:31:47,840
this celebration

2117
01:31:52,070 --> 01:31:50,080
with whitley strieber after this short

2118
01:31:53,530 --> 01:31:52,080
break i'm your host jimmy church

2119
01:31:57,430 --> 01:31:53,540
stay with us

2120
01:32:01,110 --> 01:31:59,590
you're listening to jimmy church and

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01:32:10,870 --> 01:32:01,120
fade to black

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

2123
01:32:18,950 --> 01:32:17,120
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01:32:37,110 --> 01:32:24,840
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01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:40,950
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2146
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2147
01:33:35,510 --> 01:33:32,400
headed do you wonder about the food

2148
01:33:37,669 --> 01:33:35,520
supply i do disruptions in the food

2149
01:33:40,470 --> 01:33:37,679
supply chain could be disastrous and

2150
01:33:42,470 --> 01:33:40,480
they usually occur with little warning

2151
01:33:45,430 --> 01:33:42,480
that's why the smartest thing you can do

2152
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today is to stockpile emergency food

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2165
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2166
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2167
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2168
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2169
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2170
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future of our country and where we're

2171
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:31,760
headed do you wonder about the food

2172
01:34:36,950 --> 01:34:34,800
supply i do disruptions in the food

2173
01:34:39,750 --> 01:34:36,960
supply chain could be disastrous and

2174
01:34:41,750 --> 01:34:39,760
they usually occur with little warning

2175
01:34:44,790 --> 01:34:41,760
that's why the smartest thing you can do

2176
01:34:47,750 --> 01:34:44,800
today is to stockpile emergency food

2177
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water and other essentials i personally

2178
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recommend my patriot supply they're the

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nation's largest emergency preparedness

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the only source my family trusts for our

2183
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2184
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now save 20 off a full four week supply

2185
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of delicious meals that provide 2 000

2186
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2187
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2188
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2208
01:36:18,629 --> 01:36:15,750
hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

2209
01:36:21,510 --> 01:36:18,639
jimmy church this is revolution the

2210
01:36:24,790 --> 01:36:21,520
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2211
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2213
01:36:58,550 --> 01:36:44,700
so

2214
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:08,550
[Music]

2215
01:37:12,709 --> 01:37:10,229
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

2216
01:37:15,030 --> 01:37:12,719
jimmy church tonight we are celebrating

2217
01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:15,040
the world premiere of the film the

2218
01:37:17,990 --> 01:37:16,320
observers

2219
01:37:19,189 --> 01:37:18,000
got the cast and crew here with us

2220
01:37:21,750 --> 01:37:19,199
tonight

2221
01:37:23,350 --> 01:37:21,760
no long introductions i'm your host

2222
01:37:25,910 --> 01:37:23,360
jimmy church and we're going to get

2223
01:37:28,310 --> 01:37:25,920
straight to it and say

2224
01:37:29,830 --> 01:37:28,320
whitley strieber how you doing tonight

2225
01:37:31,430 --> 01:37:29,840
my friend

2226
01:37:35,430 --> 01:37:31,440
good to be here jimmy

2227
01:37:37,430 --> 01:37:35,440
very excited it is it is a great night

2228
01:37:38,709 --> 01:37:37,440
to celebrate for sure and i don't know

2229
01:37:41,830 --> 01:37:38,719
you know tonight we're supposed to have

2230
01:37:43,910 --> 01:37:41,840
this uh eclipse this lunar eclipse

2231
01:37:45,669 --> 01:37:43,920
and i was out looking at the moon uh

2232
01:37:47,750 --> 01:37:45,679
before the show

2233
01:37:50,070 --> 01:37:47,760
it was the biggest and brightest i have

2234
01:37:51,669 --> 01:37:50,080
ever seen it in my life and i was like

2235
01:37:53,830 --> 01:37:51,679
this is a sign

2236
01:37:55,910 --> 01:37:53,840
i've got whitley on the show tonight

2237
01:37:57,510 --> 01:37:55,920
this is this is a sign

2238
01:38:00,229 --> 01:37:57,520
whitley um

2239
01:38:02,870 --> 01:38:00,239
i want to thank you on behalf of the

2240
01:38:05,109 --> 01:38:02,880
entire crew and the production team

2241
01:38:07,270 --> 01:38:05,119
behind the observers

2242
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:07,280
uh your contributions to the film cannot

2243
01:38:10,790 --> 01:38:10,000
be measured it was an extraordinary

2244
01:38:12,870 --> 01:38:10,800
uh

2245
01:38:15,270 --> 01:38:12,880
week shooting with you

2246
01:38:17,109 --> 01:38:15,280
um i'm very proud of the film but i want

2247
01:38:19,030 --> 01:38:17,119
to say thank you

2248
01:38:20,709 --> 01:38:19,040
for everything that you have done and

2249
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:20,719
brought to this community

2250
01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:23,760
and you really shine in this film

2251
01:38:31,750 --> 01:38:30,390
is this the film how did it hit you is

2252
01:38:35,669 --> 01:38:31,760
this the film

2253
01:38:38,470 --> 01:38:35,679
that the world needs to see right now

2254
01:38:42,709 --> 01:38:38,480
you know what struck me about it was the

2255
01:38:43,669 --> 01:38:42,719
the power and the intensity of everybody

2256
01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:43,679
uh

2257
01:38:47,030 --> 01:38:45,360
everybody's

2258
01:38:47,910 --> 01:38:47,040
contribution

2259
01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:47,920
uh

2260
01:38:52,149 --> 01:38:49,360
they were

2261
01:38:54,950 --> 01:38:52,159
everyone was so passionate

2262
01:38:57,189 --> 01:38:54,960
and it is because it's the time is is

2263
01:38:59,189 --> 01:38:57,199
coming closer and closer

2264
01:39:01,590 --> 01:38:59,199
every single day

2265
01:39:02,950 --> 01:39:01,600
the new christian kristin gillibrand

2266
01:39:03,910 --> 01:39:02,960
amendment the

2267
01:39:06,470 --> 01:39:03,920
uh

2268
01:39:08,470 --> 01:39:06,480
admission by the

2269
01:39:10,629 --> 01:39:08,480
i believe she's i just saw it a few

2270
01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:10,639
minutes ago that writing it up as a

2271
01:39:14,790 --> 01:39:12,960
story on my website right now but the i

2272
01:39:16,070 --> 01:39:14,800
believe the director of national

2273
01:39:17,910 --> 01:39:16,080
intelligence

2274
01:39:20,390 --> 01:39:17,920
has said that there is a

2275
01:39:23,350 --> 01:39:20,400
agreed that there is a possibility

2276
01:39:24,870 --> 01:39:23,360
that aliens could be involved here

2277
01:39:27,750 --> 01:39:24,880
and uh

2278
01:39:28,950 --> 01:39:27,760
this world is changing very rapidly

2279
01:39:31,750 --> 01:39:28,960
and that

2280
01:39:34,870 --> 01:39:31,760
the film reflects that it reflects the

2281
01:39:36,790 --> 01:39:34,880
intensity of it and the

2282
01:39:38,709 --> 01:39:36,800
all of us

2283
01:39:45,189 --> 01:39:38,719
there was such a tremendous sense of

2284
01:39:49,990 --> 01:39:47,669
it was remarkable

2285
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:50,000
yeah can i can you turn down the tv in

2286
01:39:52,870 --> 01:39:50,930
the background

2287
01:39:55,590 --> 01:39:52,880
[Laughter]

2288
01:39:58,709 --> 01:39:55,600
whitley i i said tv whitley is in the

2289
01:40:02,550 --> 01:39:58,719
middle of a meeting and uh

2290
01:40:04,709 --> 01:40:02,560
jimmy we're good now let me uh

2291
01:40:07,109 --> 01:40:04,719
it's good it's good whitley we have very

2292
01:40:08,950 --> 01:40:07,119
limited time don't don't worry about it

2293
01:40:11,109 --> 01:40:08,960
um

2294
01:40:14,149 --> 01:40:11,119
and you and you're right about that

2295
01:40:16,229 --> 01:40:14,159
we have not only what is going on in

2296
01:40:19,030 --> 01:40:16,239
washington d.c

2297
01:40:20,470 --> 01:40:19,040
uh we have science we have uh the rest

2298
01:40:23,990 --> 01:40:20,480
of the media

2299
01:40:25,109 --> 01:40:24,000
that for the first time uh that i can

2300
01:40:27,669 --> 01:40:25,119
remember

2301
01:40:30,229 --> 01:40:27,679
uh this discussion is out in the open

2302
01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:30,239
and very public and this film comes

2303
01:40:33,109 --> 01:40:31,360
along

2304
01:40:36,870 --> 01:40:33,119
to present this

2305
01:40:38,629 --> 01:40:36,880
this emotional philosophical discussion

2306
01:40:40,550 --> 01:40:38,639
to the world where they're gonna they're

2307
01:40:42,310 --> 01:40:40,560
gonna get this from another side that

2308
01:40:43,350 --> 01:40:42,320
they've probably never heard before

2309
01:40:45,669 --> 01:40:43,360
right

2310
01:40:47,189 --> 01:40:45,679
well i think they are because this is

2311
01:40:48,830 --> 01:40:47,199
the

2312
01:40:50,950 --> 01:40:48,840
we have been doing

2313
01:40:53,350 --> 01:40:50,960
this for

2314
01:40:56,390 --> 01:40:53,360
years and years and years all of us most

2315
01:40:57,590 --> 01:40:56,400
of us all most of our lives

2316
01:41:00,149 --> 01:40:57,600
and

2317
01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:00,159
we've always been in the background

2318
01:41:05,189 --> 01:41:03,440
deb kabul in the in the in the

2319
01:41:07,750 --> 01:41:05,199
uh show mentions

2320
01:41:09,350 --> 01:41:07,760
that she immediately got a publisher for

2321
01:41:11,750 --> 01:41:09,360
her book

2322
01:41:12,709 --> 01:41:11,760
that's a big change

2323
01:41:14,470 --> 01:41:12,719
uh

2324
01:41:15,830 --> 01:41:14,480
just the

2325
01:41:19,750 --> 01:41:15,840
book published

2326
01:41:21,510 --> 01:41:19,760
by george knapp and cone kelleher

2327
01:41:24,229 --> 01:41:21,520
just recently they had to publish that

2328
01:41:25,590 --> 01:41:24,239
themselves i have to publish my books

2329
01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:25,600
myself too

2330
01:41:30,390 --> 01:41:28,000
because no one will touch them

2331
01:41:33,590 --> 01:41:30,400
and no one will touch them largely

2332
01:41:34,629 --> 01:41:33,600
not because of a lack of sales online

2333
01:41:36,709 --> 01:41:34,639
that's

2334
01:41:38,870 --> 01:41:36,719
the sales online are excellent but

2335
01:41:41,910 --> 01:41:38,880
bookstores won't won't

2336
01:41:42,790 --> 01:41:41,920
stock them they won't stock our books

2337
01:41:44,550 --> 01:41:42,800
and

2338
01:41:45,830 --> 01:41:44,560
they won't stock our books

2339
01:41:47,109 --> 01:41:45,840
because

2340
01:41:50,629 --> 01:41:47,119
they're all

2341
01:41:52,709 --> 01:41:50,639
intellectuals and they all have the same

2342
01:41:54,629 --> 01:41:52,719
attitude about this

2343
01:41:57,590 --> 01:41:54,639
it's nonsense

2344
01:42:00,470 --> 01:41:57,600
and it comes not from

2345
01:42:01,910 --> 01:42:00,480
from anything in their minds it comes

2346
01:42:05,350 --> 01:42:01,920
from the ego

2347
01:42:07,430 --> 01:42:05,360
that they don't want there to be

2348
01:42:10,629 --> 01:42:07,440
uh

2349
01:42:13,590 --> 01:42:10,639
someone here who is superior to them

2350
01:42:15,990 --> 01:42:13,600
intellectually and they gotta face it

2351
01:42:17,430 --> 01:42:16,000
it's it is true

2352
01:42:18,390 --> 01:42:17,440
it's true

2353
01:42:20,950 --> 01:42:18,400
they are

2354
01:42:23,750 --> 01:42:20,960
superior to us they won't always be but

2355
01:42:29,270 --> 01:42:26,790
i was uh speaking uh with richard dolan

2356
01:42:30,310 --> 01:42:29,280
earlier in the broadcast tonight about

2357
01:42:31,430 --> 01:42:30,320
you

2358
01:42:33,270 --> 01:42:31,440
and

2359
01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:33,280
that you have been a part of this

2360
01:42:38,149 --> 01:42:36,320
community for so long and we have

2361
01:42:40,310 --> 01:42:38,159
listened and listened to you and

2362
01:42:42,950 --> 01:42:40,320
respected you and read you

2363
01:42:46,310 --> 01:42:42,960
but uh

2364
01:42:47,990 --> 01:42:46,320
i think we all recognized uh the cast

2365
01:42:48,709 --> 01:42:48,000
we're all friends

2366
01:42:54,550 --> 01:42:48,719
but

2367
01:42:57,270 --> 01:42:54,560
you opened up uh in a very internal way

2368
01:43:00,229 --> 01:42:57,280
i think like never before and you've

2369
01:43:02,709 --> 01:43:00,239
always sort of touched upon it

2370
01:43:04,870 --> 01:43:02,719
but there was another

2371
01:43:06,470 --> 01:43:04,880
you went to another level

2372
01:43:07,350 --> 01:43:06,480
in this film

2373
01:43:09,350 --> 01:43:07,360
uh

2374
01:43:11,430 --> 01:43:09,360
why do you think that was was it the

2375
01:43:13,990 --> 01:43:11,440
comfort level of being around friends

2376
01:43:17,590 --> 01:43:14,000
was it the questions from the director

2377
01:43:20,310 --> 01:43:17,600
roger richards are you just

2378
01:43:22,550 --> 01:43:20,320
ready to just let it all hang out why

2379
01:43:26,070 --> 01:43:22,560
why do you think i'm on fire with this i

2380
01:43:28,709 --> 01:43:26,080
know what's happening i can't say it not

2381
01:43:29,750 --> 01:43:28,719
because i'm keeping secrets but because

2382
01:43:32,390 --> 01:43:29,760
it's not

2383
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:32,400
in the articulate part of my mind but

2384
01:43:36,470 --> 01:43:34,480
somewhere i know

2385
01:43:39,430 --> 01:43:36,480
i know i know

2386
01:43:41,189 --> 01:43:39,440
what's happening and i'm very very

2387
01:43:44,149 --> 01:43:41,199
passionate about it

2388
01:43:46,870 --> 01:43:44,159
because this is the future of mankind

2389
01:43:47,590 --> 01:43:46,880
right this is our future

2390
01:43:51,109 --> 01:43:47,600
and

2391
01:43:52,629 --> 01:43:51,119
we have a future

2392
01:43:54,070 --> 01:43:52,639
i'm not saying it's going to be all

2393
01:43:55,990 --> 01:43:54,080
sweetness and light and everyone is

2394
01:43:59,270 --> 01:43:56,000
going to get angel wings it's going to

2395
01:44:02,470 --> 01:43:59,280
be a hard slog for us to do this

2396
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:02,480
but in fact in the end

2397
01:44:09,910 --> 01:44:04,000
our children

2398
01:44:11,109 --> 01:44:09,920
are going to be part of this cosmos

2399
01:44:12,310 --> 01:44:11,119
instead of

2400
01:44:15,189 --> 01:44:12,320
stuck here

2401
01:44:17,189 --> 01:44:15,199
on earth they're going to whatever that

2402
01:44:18,629 --> 01:44:17,199
means and it may not mean going to other

2403
01:44:21,669 --> 01:44:18,639
planets it may mean something that we

2404
01:44:23,830 --> 01:44:21,679
don't even yet cannot even conceive

2405
01:44:26,470 --> 01:44:23,840
right but it's what's going to happen

2406
01:44:27,830 --> 01:44:26,480
the human species is going to get

2407
01:44:30,470 --> 01:44:27,840
much bigger

2408
01:44:32,310 --> 01:44:30,480
much more powerful much stronger and

2409
01:44:35,910 --> 01:44:32,320
human lives

2410
01:44:37,990 --> 01:44:35,920
are going to get much much richer

2411
01:44:41,109 --> 01:44:38,000
if this happens

2412
01:44:43,830 --> 01:44:41,119
and i want it to happen i want there to

2413
01:44:45,750 --> 01:44:43,840
be a confluence between

2414
01:44:48,709 --> 01:44:45,760
the mind of man

2415
01:44:51,270 --> 01:44:48,719
and whatever this phenomenon really

2416
01:44:53,990 --> 01:44:51,280
really is in its core

2417
01:44:55,830 --> 01:44:54,000
and you know john alexander said a great

2418
01:44:58,790 --> 01:44:55,840
thing uh he said

2419
01:45:00,709 --> 01:44:58,800
this is very complex

2420
01:45:03,669 --> 01:45:00,719
and he's right

2421
01:45:04,709 --> 01:45:03,679
it's not just sitting back and

2422
01:45:06,629 --> 01:45:04,719
oh hey

2423
01:45:08,229 --> 01:45:06,639
guys from another planet what kind of

2424
01:45:10,070 --> 01:45:08,239
cell phones they have

2425
01:45:12,629 --> 01:45:10,080
that's not it

2426
01:45:16,390 --> 01:45:12,639
this is about the soul of man

2427
01:45:17,910 --> 01:45:16,400
the blood of man the future of man it's

2428
01:45:19,510 --> 01:45:17,920
the biggest thing

2429
01:45:22,950 --> 01:45:19,520
that can happen

2430
01:45:25,510 --> 01:45:22,960
nothing bigger can happen in history

2431
01:45:27,669 --> 01:45:25,520
than a level of contact

2432
01:45:31,030 --> 01:45:27,679
like that which is coming and that's

2433
01:45:32,310 --> 01:45:31,040
what i am alive with and i know a

2434
01:45:34,790 --> 01:45:32,320
timeline

2435
01:45:36,390 --> 01:45:34,800
i and then gradually it's coming in to

2436
01:45:38,950 --> 01:45:36,400
my conscious mind

2437
01:45:42,390 --> 01:45:38,960
and there's a sense that things are

2438
01:45:43,669 --> 01:45:42,400
really unfolding like right now

2439
01:45:45,669 --> 01:45:43,679
there it

2440
01:45:47,910 --> 01:45:45,679
i i've just got two minutes left with

2441
01:45:51,030 --> 01:45:47,920
you uh whitley

2442
01:45:54,070 --> 01:45:51,040
um and it's this uh probably out of

2443
01:45:56,830 --> 01:45:54,080
everybody that i know uh you understand

2444
01:46:01,189 --> 01:45:56,840
media all facets of it better than

2445
01:46:03,669 --> 01:46:01,199
anybody um part of an effective delivery

2446
01:46:06,229 --> 01:46:03,679
part half of theater

2447
01:46:07,590 --> 01:46:06,239
is the theatrics the imaging the

2448
01:46:11,590 --> 01:46:07,600
production

2449
01:46:13,350 --> 01:46:11,600
and and the imagery of of things

2450
01:46:16,149 --> 01:46:13,360
uh we have

2451
01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:16,159
the dialogue in this film

2452
01:46:19,990 --> 01:46:17,760
but the rest of the world needs the

2453
01:46:22,229 --> 01:46:20,000
production to go along with it

2454
01:46:24,470 --> 01:46:22,239
is the impact going to be there is this

2455
01:46:27,189 --> 01:46:24,480
a visually impactful film to go along

2456
01:46:29,669 --> 01:46:27,199
with the message

2457
01:46:33,990 --> 01:46:29,679
well it depends on what you think we

2458
01:46:38,470 --> 01:46:36,070
because it's a lot of us

2459
01:46:41,189 --> 01:46:38,480
it's a lot of us but you know

2460
01:46:43,910 --> 01:46:41,199
a human face

2461
01:46:45,990 --> 01:46:43,920
communicates an immense amount

2462
01:46:47,830 --> 01:46:46,000
and there are certain moments

2463
01:46:49,030 --> 01:46:47,840
in there like

2464
01:46:50,629 --> 01:46:49,040
linda's

2465
01:46:52,830 --> 01:46:50,639
eyes

2466
01:46:56,149 --> 01:46:52,840
blaze out

2467
01:46:59,510 --> 01:46:56,159
and richard's voice

2468
01:47:01,750 --> 01:46:59,520
is so confident and self-assured and

2469
01:47:04,390 --> 01:47:01,760
determined

2470
01:47:06,830 --> 01:47:04,400
they're all each one of them

2471
01:47:09,669 --> 01:47:06,840
has another level of

2472
01:47:12,229 --> 01:47:09,679
delivery william henry's

2473
01:47:15,030 --> 01:47:12,239
sincerity and his immense

2474
01:47:16,629 --> 01:47:15,040
depth of knowledge yes come out in his

2475
01:47:18,550 --> 01:47:16,639
voice

2476
01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:18,560
and uh

2477
01:47:23,990 --> 01:47:21,040
all of us we're all like that in one

2478
01:47:24,950 --> 01:47:24,000
i've never seen you quite like you were

2479
01:47:31,109 --> 01:47:24,960
you were

2480
01:47:33,590 --> 01:47:31,119
thank you for that and uh and how about

2481
01:47:35,430 --> 01:47:33,600
uh jesse ventura

2482
01:47:41,590 --> 01:47:35,440
i mean

2483
01:47:44,070 --> 01:47:41,600
i could have done 90 minutes with jesse

2484
01:47:46,310 --> 01:47:44,080
right i mean he was honest

2485
01:47:47,109 --> 01:47:46,320
the same way and john they were all like

2486
01:47:50,149 --> 01:47:47,119
that

2487
01:47:52,950 --> 01:47:50,159
the passion was intense

2488
01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:52,960
because you know we've all done this

2489
01:47:56,870 --> 01:47:54,960
much of our lives

2490
01:47:59,750 --> 01:47:56,880
and we've all been

2491
01:48:02,070 --> 01:47:59,760
kind of behind the eight ball for it

2492
01:48:05,189 --> 01:48:02,080
you know ignored and in my case made

2493
01:48:06,070 --> 01:48:05,199
into a national joke right

2494
01:48:08,310 --> 01:48:06,080
and

2495
01:48:10,149 --> 01:48:08,320
you know now they have to face what they

2496
01:48:11,750 --> 01:48:10,159
did to us

2497
01:48:15,189 --> 01:48:11,760
and that's fine i don't really care

2498
01:48:16,870 --> 01:48:15,199
about that all i care about is

2499
01:48:18,870 --> 01:48:16,880
the truth

2500
01:48:21,750 --> 01:48:18,880
finally comes out

2501
01:48:23,750 --> 01:48:21,760
and the truth is a living thing

2502
01:48:25,590 --> 01:48:23,760
and it will free us

2503
01:48:27,109 --> 01:48:25,600
but boy the journey is going to be a

2504
01:48:28,070 --> 01:48:27,119
tough journey

2505
01:48:31,350 --> 01:48:28,080
whitley

2506
01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:31,360
again thank you for being my friend

2507
01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:33,360
thank you for your contributions to this

2508
01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:34,560
community

2509
01:48:38,390 --> 01:48:37,199
and you made this film completely

2510
01:48:40,229 --> 01:48:38,400
magical

2511
01:48:43,030 --> 01:48:40,239
thank you so much thank you i think we

2512
01:48:44,870 --> 01:48:43,040
all did jimmy yeah yeah it's all about

2513
01:48:47,750 --> 01:48:44,880
whitley i'm just i'm putting it out

2514
01:48:49,750 --> 01:48:47,760
there hey whitley thank you so much

2515
01:48:51,430 --> 01:48:49,760
thank you so much my friend and i'll

2516
01:48:52,709 --> 01:48:51,440
give you a call tomorrow enjoy the rest

2517
01:48:54,310 --> 01:48:52,719
of your night i know you're in the

2518
01:48:56,550 --> 01:48:54,320
middle of some stuff

2519
01:48:58,390 --> 01:48:56,560
and uh thank you for taking the time and

2520
01:49:02,709 --> 01:48:58,400
thank you for being you

2521
01:49:04,149 --> 01:49:02,719
great you're the best whitley enjoy the

2522
01:49:05,990 --> 01:49:04,159
the rest of your night my friend thank

2523
01:49:08,310 --> 01:49:06,000
you so much

2524
01:49:10,430 --> 01:49:08,320
whitley strieber and of course the

2525
01:49:13,589 --> 01:49:10,440
websites for whitley are over at

2526
01:49:14,470 --> 01:49:13,599
jimmychurchradio.com but it is a special

2527
01:49:17,189 --> 01:49:14,480
film

2528
01:49:19,669 --> 01:49:17,199
and we have an amazing cast and we are

2529
01:49:21,030 --> 01:49:19,679
celebrating with everybody tonight good

2530
01:49:24,629 --> 01:49:21,040
night whitley

2531
01:49:27,830 --> 01:49:24,639
thank you so much and uh and with that

2532
01:49:29,109 --> 01:49:27,840
i am going to go straight into our next

2533
01:49:32,950 --> 01:49:29,119
guest now

2534
01:49:35,030 --> 01:49:32,960
i am doing this in in real time

2535
01:49:36,870 --> 01:49:35,040
uh and normally

2536
01:49:39,030 --> 01:49:36,880
i would have uh

2537
01:49:41,270 --> 01:49:39,040
a commercial break

2538
01:49:42,870 --> 01:49:41,280
and i've got things lined up so

2539
01:49:45,589 --> 01:49:42,880
everybody

2540
01:49:48,550 --> 01:49:45,599
uh can uh

2541
01:49:51,430 --> 01:49:48,560
oh man i have it backwards now

2542
01:49:54,629 --> 01:49:51,440
i have it backwards but i am together i

2543
01:49:57,750 --> 01:49:54,639
am officially together i have got this

2544
01:49:59,750 --> 01:49:57,760
going on i do we are celebrating with

2545
01:50:02,310 --> 01:49:59,760
the cast and crew tonight

2546
01:50:06,070 --> 01:50:02,320
of the observers

2547
01:50:09,270 --> 01:50:06,080
and uh now uh let me say this richard

2548
01:50:12,550 --> 01:50:09,280
dolan thank you linda moulton howe

2549
01:50:14,790 --> 01:50:12,560
thank you whitley strieber thank you

2550
01:50:16,790 --> 01:50:14,800
and one of the

2551
01:50:18,390 --> 01:50:16,800
uh

2552
01:50:20,870 --> 01:50:18,400
one of the people

2553
01:50:23,990 --> 01:50:20,880
that not only for me personally made

2554
01:50:25,589 --> 01:50:24,000
this film special but all of us have

2555
01:50:28,790 --> 01:50:25,599
been talking

2556
01:50:31,830 --> 01:50:28,800
about debbie cobble tonight and debbie

2557
01:50:35,109 --> 01:50:31,840
is with us and i am going to say

2558
01:50:39,270 --> 01:50:37,750
thanks i love the hair yeah

2559
01:50:41,830 --> 01:50:39,280
look at you

2560
01:50:43,589 --> 01:50:41,840
how are you debbie cobble everybody

2561
01:50:44,550 --> 01:50:43,599
debbie we've been talking about you all

2562
01:50:45,350 --> 01:50:44,560
night

2563
01:50:48,149 --> 01:50:45,360
and

2564
01:50:49,109 --> 01:50:48,159
yeah yeah yeah yeah

2565
01:50:51,189 --> 01:50:49,119
um

2566
01:50:53,669 --> 01:50:51,199
let me let me get to

2567
01:50:55,910 --> 01:50:53,679
uh the crescendo in the film

2568
01:50:57,669 --> 01:50:55,920
uh this build up uh through act one act

2569
01:50:58,629 --> 01:50:57,679
two and act three

2570
01:51:04,470 --> 01:50:58,639
and

2571
01:51:05,270 --> 01:51:04,480
the film is at its emotional peak

2572
01:51:06,950 --> 01:51:05,280
uh

2573
01:51:07,910 --> 01:51:06,960
you're right there

2574
01:51:10,470 --> 01:51:07,920
and

2575
01:51:12,790 --> 01:51:10,480
you're you're you're

2576
01:51:14,790 --> 01:51:12,800
i almost want to say statements but i

2577
01:51:17,350 --> 01:51:14,800
think that your communication to the

2578
01:51:19,910 --> 01:51:17,360
world uh and you were speaking

2579
01:51:22,070 --> 01:51:19,920
um in that manner at that point do you

2580
01:51:24,709 --> 01:51:22,080
remember what you said do you remember

2581
01:51:26,629 --> 01:51:24,719
how special it was or when you saw the

2582
01:51:29,270 --> 01:51:26,639
film did you go

2583
01:51:30,149 --> 01:51:29,280
i said that

2584
01:51:31,669 --> 01:51:30,159
well

2585
01:51:33,669 --> 01:51:31,679
some of the things that i said as i

2586
01:51:36,550 --> 01:51:33,679
watched the film i said

2587
01:51:38,790 --> 01:51:36,560
i can remember thinking in my mind as i

2588
01:51:40,950 --> 01:51:38,800
was saying them at the time

2589
01:51:43,030 --> 01:51:40,960
and i'm thinking it when i'm watching it

2590
01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:43,040
too is oh my god i can't believe i'm

2591
01:51:47,510 --> 01:51:45,040
saying this in public people don't think

2592
01:51:50,070 --> 01:51:47,520
i'm crazy but

2593
01:51:52,310 --> 01:51:50,080
you know i've i've done that for

2594
01:51:54,870 --> 01:51:52,320
35 years you know every time i've told

2595
01:51:56,229 --> 01:51:54,880
my story right and i think to myself you

2596
01:51:58,950 --> 01:51:56,239
know if i hadn't

2597
01:52:01,750 --> 01:51:58,960
lived some of this saw this you know if

2598
01:52:03,669 --> 01:52:01,760
i hadn't seen this and experienced

2599
01:52:06,310 --> 01:52:03,679
i would think i was crazy and i did

2600
01:52:08,629 --> 01:52:06,320
think i was crazy and you know

2601
01:52:10,390 --> 01:52:08,639
so and i was nervous because i don't do

2602
01:52:14,629 --> 01:52:10,400
that very often

2603
01:52:17,189 --> 01:52:14,639
and what did you make of uh i'm gonna be

2604
01:52:22,030 --> 01:52:17,199
very straight with you right now

2605
01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:22,040
with director roger richards style that

2606
01:52:26,229 --> 01:52:25,040
communication conversational

2607
01:52:29,270 --> 01:52:26,239
way

2608
01:52:30,470 --> 01:52:29,280
of drawing this out of you

2609
01:52:32,870 --> 01:52:30,480
uh

2610
01:52:34,950 --> 01:52:32,880
it helped me yeah

2611
01:52:37,030 --> 01:52:34,960
you know he helped me feel comfortable

2612
01:52:38,870 --> 01:52:37,040
he made me feel comfortable when we were

2613
01:52:41,990 --> 01:52:38,880
together talking one-on-one

2614
01:52:42,950 --> 01:52:42,000
um he was really kind and i mean he knew

2615
01:52:52,310 --> 01:52:42,960
i'm

2616
01:52:56,229 --> 01:52:52,320
an expert in anything like linda and

2617
01:52:58,310 --> 01:52:56,239
richard you know i i don't uh

2618
01:53:00,629 --> 01:52:58,320
have the right words sometimes to say

2619
01:53:03,750 --> 01:53:00,639
what's in my head it's hard for me

2620
01:53:05,669 --> 01:53:03,760
i struggle with that and um

2621
01:53:08,870 --> 01:53:05,679
i think he sat in me and he kind of

2622
01:53:10,709 --> 01:53:08,880
helped guide me to i could get i think

2623
01:53:12,790 --> 01:53:10,719
you know it's almost i felt the kind of

2624
01:53:15,030 --> 01:53:12,800
a connection with him

2625
01:53:17,669 --> 01:53:15,040
in a way like he almost knew

2626
01:53:18,790 --> 01:53:17,679
what it was i had in me to say and he

2627
01:53:20,470 --> 01:53:18,800
helped me

2628
01:53:22,709 --> 01:53:20,480
get it out

2629
01:53:26,390 --> 01:53:22,719
you know what's um uh

2630
01:53:27,589 --> 01:53:26,400
really amazing to me is that um

2631
01:53:32,990 --> 01:53:27,599
as

2632
01:53:38,709 --> 01:53:33,000
your

2633
01:53:41,750 --> 01:53:38,719
it was smooth

2634
01:53:45,910 --> 01:53:41,760
and and i think you got to a point in

2635
01:53:47,109 --> 01:53:45,920
yourself where your brain your mind

2636
01:53:50,229 --> 01:53:47,119
was just

2637
01:53:51,270 --> 01:53:50,239
firmly connected to your jaw

2638
01:53:56,070 --> 01:53:51,280
and

2639
01:53:58,229 --> 01:53:56,080
smooth

2640
01:53:59,270 --> 01:53:58,239
because it was a very heavy moment in

2641
01:54:02,229 --> 01:53:59,280
the film

2642
01:54:04,790 --> 01:54:02,239
right and and it could have gone in in

2643
01:54:07,430 --> 01:54:04,800
any number of directions

2644
01:54:09,990 --> 01:54:07,440
um and it didn't

2645
01:54:13,750 --> 01:54:10,000
it it was magic that was that was

2646
01:54:16,470 --> 01:54:13,760
captured it was it was just smooth

2647
01:54:18,229 --> 01:54:16,480
am i using the right am i describing

2648
01:54:20,070 --> 01:54:18,239
this the right way

2649
01:54:23,510 --> 01:54:20,080
it was just

2650
01:54:25,030 --> 01:54:23,520
and it just came out of you you know

2651
01:54:28,390 --> 01:54:25,040
every

2652
01:54:30,870 --> 01:54:28,400
while i was in california and we were

2653
01:54:33,510 --> 01:54:30,880
filming right every every

2654
01:54:34,390 --> 01:54:33,520
morning when i woke up before i went off

2655
01:54:36,950 --> 01:54:34,400
to

2656
01:54:39,750 --> 01:54:36,960
that day

2657
01:54:41,589 --> 01:54:39,760
i and i'm not a religious person per se

2658
01:54:44,950 --> 01:54:41,599
i believe in you know

2659
01:54:47,030 --> 01:54:44,960
higher power and spirit in me

2660
01:54:49,589 --> 01:54:47,040
and out there but

2661
01:54:51,990 --> 01:54:49,599
and like i said before i didn't do this

2662
01:54:53,750 --> 01:54:52,000
often you know i don't do this go out

2663
01:54:56,070 --> 01:54:53,760
and film stuff like this at all i

2664
01:54:56,790 --> 01:54:56,080
actually don't kind of trust media you

2665
01:55:01,990 --> 01:54:56,800
know

2666
01:55:03,589 --> 01:55:02,000
years ago and learned my lesson but i

2667
01:55:06,149 --> 01:55:03,599
felt like

2668
01:55:07,830 --> 01:55:06,159
you know i was compelled to be here

2669
01:55:09,589 --> 01:55:07,840
um it was like one of those things i

2670
01:55:11,189 --> 01:55:09,599
couldn't say no to and i couldn't say no

2671
01:55:13,189 --> 01:55:11,199
to linda when she asked me if i would be

2672
01:55:15,270 --> 01:55:13,199
the person that she interviewed that's

2673
01:55:16,629 --> 01:55:15,280
how i got out there to begin with

2674
01:55:19,030 --> 01:55:16,639
and um

2675
01:55:21,589 --> 01:55:19,040
every morning when i got up i literally

2676
01:55:23,109 --> 01:55:21,599
got down on my knees and i

2677
01:55:25,830 --> 01:55:23,119
put my hands together and i said you

2678
01:55:31,669 --> 01:55:29,830
what i and i'm not sure why but i'm here

2679
01:55:33,830 --> 01:55:31,679
for a reason i'm gonna trust

2680
01:55:35,510 --> 01:55:33,840
and have faith in it so

2681
01:55:37,350 --> 01:55:35,520
you know whatever you

2682
01:55:39,350 --> 01:55:37,360
want me to say give me the words because

2683
01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:39,360
you know i'm not good at words

2684
01:55:44,709 --> 01:55:42,480
and so maybe that's why you know because

2685
01:55:46,550 --> 01:55:44,719
i kind of opened myself up a little more

2686
01:55:47,669 --> 01:55:46,560
than normal and

2687
01:55:49,589 --> 01:55:47,679
and uh

2688
01:55:51,430 --> 01:55:49,599
you know it just came out

2689
01:55:52,950 --> 01:55:51,440
i was thinking in my head i'm like oh my

2690
01:55:55,109 --> 01:55:52,960
god i can't believe i'm saying this out

2691
01:55:57,750 --> 01:55:55,119
loud but here we are i don't know who

2692
01:56:00,790 --> 01:55:57,760
you reached out to but i owe them a

2693
01:56:03,750 --> 01:56:00,800
whole truckload of thanks and gratitude

2694
01:56:06,870 --> 01:56:03,760
um now there was uh we've just got a

2695
01:56:09,589 --> 01:56:06,880
very uh limited amount of time uh

2696
01:56:11,270 --> 01:56:09,599
tonight with you um but

2697
01:56:13,669 --> 01:56:11,280
there was

2698
01:56:14,870 --> 01:56:13,679
a lot of fun on that set

2699
01:56:19,109 --> 01:56:14,880
the crew

2700
01:56:22,390 --> 01:56:19,119
lights camera action food makeup

2701
01:56:24,790 --> 01:56:22,400
every there was a vibe on that set

2702
01:56:27,510 --> 01:56:24,800
and and the cast you know this

2703
01:56:31,430 --> 01:56:27,520
friendship this bond that was happening

2704
01:56:34,709 --> 01:56:31,440
that was pretty cool did it come through

2705
01:56:36,790 --> 01:56:34,719
into the film did that vibe continue

2706
01:56:38,390 --> 01:56:36,800
into the film

2707
01:56:40,629 --> 01:56:38,400
um

2708
01:56:43,990 --> 01:56:40,639
yeah i think so well at least for me it

2709
01:56:45,830 --> 01:56:44,000
did uh so i knew i knew

2710
01:56:48,149 --> 01:56:45,840
pretty much everybody

2711
01:56:49,589 --> 01:56:48,159
um i hadn't met lou or

2712
01:56:52,390 --> 01:56:49,599
jesse

2713
01:56:55,430 --> 01:56:52,400
i knew i didn't meet them that week but

2714
01:56:56,629 --> 01:56:55,440
i mean like linda and whitley and

2715
01:56:58,709 --> 01:56:56,639
um

2716
01:57:01,589 --> 01:56:58,719
richard and then i got to meet william

2717
01:57:03,669 --> 01:57:01,599
henry we have mutual friends and so i

2718
01:57:05,510 --> 01:57:03,679
felt that connection and i felt like as

2719
01:57:08,709 --> 01:57:05,520
i watched the film

2720
01:57:10,870 --> 01:57:08,719
it felt like um

2721
01:57:13,430 --> 01:57:10,880
we're all we were all pieces of this

2722
01:57:15,189 --> 01:57:13,440
giant puzzle and as the week progressed

2723
01:57:17,350 --> 01:57:15,199
and as things came together and i could

2724
01:57:19,109 --> 01:57:17,360
see it in the film it was like each

2725
01:57:21,510 --> 01:57:19,119
puzzle piece kind of came together and

2726
01:57:24,950 --> 01:57:21,520
we all dovetailed and we showed that

2727
01:57:27,750 --> 01:57:24,960
this this phenomenon is like um

2728
01:57:28,470 --> 01:57:27,760
an onion with many layers in it you know

2729
01:57:32,550 --> 01:57:28,480
and

2730
01:57:34,790 --> 01:57:32,560
we were i just felt like we all kind of

2731
01:57:37,510 --> 01:57:34,800
complimented each other and each

2732
01:57:39,669 --> 01:57:37,520
everybody has a different perspective

2733
01:57:42,149 --> 01:57:39,679
you know and i can only speak for myself

2734
01:57:45,109 --> 01:57:42,159
and my experience and i'm not a

2735
01:57:47,589 --> 01:57:45,119
scientist but you know

2736
01:57:50,470 --> 01:57:47,599
so i would i felt comfortable uh

2737
01:57:53,669 --> 01:57:50,480
expressing my feelings there oh well it

2738
01:57:56,070 --> 01:57:53,679
kind of i got a little different

2739
01:57:59,270 --> 01:57:56,080
that that's that's not true

2740
01:58:01,430 --> 01:57:59,280
that's not true at all and and let me

2741
01:58:04,070 --> 01:58:01,440
let me help you express this

2742
01:58:06,790 --> 01:58:04,080
uh that first night uh you and i sat

2743
01:58:08,310 --> 01:58:06,800
next to each other at dinner and we had

2744
01:58:09,589 --> 01:58:08,320
this is the first we hadn't started

2745
01:58:12,629 --> 01:58:09,599
shooting yet

2746
01:58:14,709 --> 01:58:12,639
and we had this incredible four five six

2747
01:58:16,390 --> 01:58:14,719
hour dinner i don't know how late we

2748
01:58:17,990 --> 01:58:16,400
went to in the morning knowing we had an

2749
01:58:21,990 --> 01:58:18,000
early call time

2750
01:58:25,030 --> 01:58:22,000
but we just kept hanging out

2751
01:58:27,589 --> 01:58:25,040
right and the wow especially you i mean

2752
01:58:29,109 --> 01:58:27,599
you're my hometown guy you know when

2753
01:58:31,589 --> 01:58:29,119
when i when you open your mouth and

2754
01:58:32,470 --> 01:58:31,599
started talking i and you know we found

2755
01:58:34,550 --> 01:58:32,480
out we

2756
01:58:35,910 --> 01:58:34,560
grew up the same town the same

2757
01:58:37,510 --> 01:58:35,920
neighborhood went to the same high

2758
01:58:40,149 --> 01:58:37,520
school i was like

2759
01:58:43,750 --> 01:58:40,159
yeah and i don't know you know you

2760
01:58:45,669 --> 01:58:43,760
understood me when i spoke hoosier

2761
01:58:48,070 --> 01:58:45,679
yeah it was it was totally cool and i

2762
01:58:50,310 --> 01:58:48,080
said to myself and i know you were

2763
01:58:52,709 --> 01:58:50,320
thinking it and so was everybody else

2764
01:58:53,990 --> 01:58:52,719
you know what we are off to the perfect

2765
01:58:59,669 --> 01:58:54,000
start

2766
01:59:01,589 --> 01:58:59,679
it's all downhill because the vibe is

2767
01:59:04,310 --> 01:59:01,599
correct at this dinner

2768
01:59:06,950 --> 01:59:04,320
and it felt like family it did to me it

2769
01:59:09,350 --> 01:59:06,960
felt like family it absolutely did and

2770
01:59:11,270 --> 01:59:09,360
and it comes across in this film to me

2771
01:59:12,790 --> 01:59:11,280
and i'm glad that you see it too but it

2772
01:59:15,589 --> 01:59:12,800
was a great time

2773
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:15,599
and uh your contributions debbie thank

2774
01:59:19,430 --> 01:59:17,920
you so much i mean it

2775
01:59:21,830 --> 01:59:19,440
you uh

2776
01:59:24,470 --> 01:59:21,840
i'm gonna say this to you now on behalf

2777
01:59:26,470 --> 01:59:24,480
of uh director roger richards

2778
01:59:27,589 --> 01:59:26,480
as i'm watching uh the first rough cut

2779
01:59:29,109 --> 01:59:27,599
of the film

2780
01:59:30,950 --> 01:59:29,119
and we get to the end

2781
01:59:33,589 --> 01:59:30,960
and and you

2782
01:59:37,589 --> 01:59:33,599
speak that last sentence you closed the

2783
01:59:40,470 --> 01:59:37,599
film and i said to myself

2784
01:59:43,350 --> 01:59:40,480
roll credits roger right now

2785
01:59:44,390 --> 01:59:43,360
right now roll credits and the credits

2786
01:59:45,350 --> 01:59:44,400
rolled

2787
01:59:50,550 --> 01:59:45,360
and

2788
01:59:53,750 --> 01:59:50,560
rock star

2789
01:59:57,109 --> 01:59:53,760
and and there it is and and the film

2790
01:59:59,669 --> 01:59:57,119
could not be what it is without you

2791
02:00:02,149 --> 01:59:59,679
thank you i am humbled

2792
02:00:05,350 --> 02:00:02,159
and grateful to have been able to have

2793
02:00:07,350 --> 02:00:05,360
this experience and to been given the

2794
02:00:11,669 --> 02:00:07,360
opportunity to

2795
02:00:15,430 --> 02:00:11,679
um speak you know in this film i'm i'm

2796
02:00:17,589 --> 02:00:15,440
deeply grateful and i hope it reaches

2797
02:00:20,149 --> 02:00:17,599
far and wide because i tell you like i

2798
02:00:21,990 --> 02:00:20,159
said for every one of me that's out

2799
02:00:23,189 --> 02:00:22,000
there putting themselves out there

2800
02:00:25,030 --> 02:00:23,199
there's

2801
02:00:27,109 --> 02:00:25,040
tens of thousands

2802
02:00:28,709 --> 02:00:27,119
of people with probably crazier

2803
02:00:30,310 --> 02:00:28,719
experiences than even i've had that

2804
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aren't saying a word and i want them to

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feel comfortable and i want them to come

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and speak out and feel safe

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debbie again thank you i'm so proud to

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call you friend and

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go warren central warriors

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that's what i'm talking about thank you

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so much deb enjoy the rest of your night

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we're celebrating together you

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celebrated with us thank you so much

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enjoy the rest of your night and my best

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to nap town

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uh will do thank you so much

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debbie

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good night

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what an amazing

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amazing woman

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amazing amazing and uh i can't wait for

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everybody to see the film

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and just appreciate

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the emotion and love of debbie caldwell

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thank you deb have a great night i'm

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your host jimmy church

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coming up next

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john greenwald hi everybody this is rob

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i couldn't stay sane without pulling

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why fade to black

2918
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this is fade to black with jimmy church

2919
02:05:46,390 --> 02:05:35,570
on the game changer radio network

2920
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all right welcome back fade to black and

2921
02:05:55,430 --> 02:05:51,760
i just found out my mute button

2922
02:05:56,470 --> 02:05:55,440
on my console is broken

2923
02:06:01,109 --> 02:05:56,480
it's

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it won't stay

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mute it so everybody's hearing

2926
02:06:12,470 --> 02:06:09,599
my hot mic and and my comments

2927
02:06:14,870 --> 02:06:12,480
to john greenwald during the break so uh

2928
02:06:18,550 --> 02:06:14,880
and no introductions tonight we are

2929
02:06:20,149 --> 02:06:18,560
celebrating the worldwide premiere of

2930
02:06:23,030 --> 02:06:20,159
our film

2931
02:06:25,510 --> 02:06:23,040
the observers and i'm just going to go

2932
02:06:27,030 --> 02:06:25,520
straight into it and say john they heard

2933
02:06:29,109 --> 02:06:27,040
everything that you and i were talking

2934
02:06:31,109 --> 02:06:29,119
about so there you go you know secrets

2935
02:06:33,830 --> 02:06:31,119
out there it's all out

2936
02:06:35,030 --> 02:06:33,840
on the table now how do i get through a

2937
02:06:37,350 --> 02:06:35,040
show

2938
02:06:41,270 --> 02:06:37,360
yeah oh yeah i gotta go jimmy it's been

2939
02:06:45,030 --> 02:06:43,430
john uh

2940
02:06:46,069 --> 02:06:45,040
again uh

2941
02:06:47,990 --> 02:06:46,079
thank you

2942
02:06:50,550 --> 02:06:48,000
on behalf of uh the crew and the

2943
02:06:52,950 --> 02:06:50,560
production behind the observers uh your

2944
02:06:56,149 --> 02:06:52,960
contributions to the film and

2945
02:06:57,589 --> 02:06:56,159
and and and and things um

2946
02:06:59,750 --> 02:06:57,599
we um

2947
02:07:02,550 --> 02:06:59,760
i want to say john was

2948
02:07:04,870 --> 02:07:02,560
one of the few that i wasn't there for

2949
02:07:07,669 --> 02:07:04,880
the shooting because i was

2950
02:07:10,790 --> 02:07:07,679
um in another city that day

2951
02:07:12,550 --> 02:07:10,800
and and uh when i called you john to be

2952
02:07:13,350 --> 02:07:12,560
a part of this film

2953
02:07:17,990 --> 02:07:13,360
and

2954
02:07:19,669 --> 02:07:18,000
producer uh to bring you into the

2955
02:07:22,229 --> 02:07:19,679
to the project

2956
02:07:24,790 --> 02:07:22,239
um that pitch

2957
02:07:26,870 --> 02:07:24,800
is never what the film turns out to be

2958
02:07:30,470 --> 02:07:26,880
it doesn't matter right you've been in

2959
02:07:31,750 --> 02:07:30,480
film and television for a very long time

2960
02:07:33,750 --> 02:07:31,760
but

2961
02:07:34,709 --> 02:07:33,760
i think this film delivered

2962
02:07:39,109 --> 02:07:34,719
yeah

2963
02:07:41,350 --> 02:07:39,119
social media already i know it dropped

2964
02:07:42,870 --> 02:07:41,360
early from what i gathered from your

2965
02:07:43,990 --> 02:07:42,880
posts i've seen a lot i'm looking

2966
02:07:46,390 --> 02:07:44,000
forward to seeing the full thing i've

2967
02:07:48,390 --> 02:07:46,400
seen a few bits and pieces they did a

2968
02:07:50,709 --> 02:07:48,400
great job doing a lot of promo pieces

2969
02:07:53,669 --> 02:07:50,719
for it uh and you know what uh you're

2970
02:07:54,790 --> 02:07:53,679
absolutely right when a television show

2971
02:07:57,669 --> 02:07:54,800
is

2972
02:07:59,669 --> 02:07:57,679
conceived and and they go out and do it

2973
02:08:02,310 --> 02:07:59,679
doesn't matter the network whether it's

2974
02:08:04,470 --> 02:08:02,320
uh film or tv it never ends up what it

2975
02:08:05,430 --> 02:08:04,480
originally was supposed to be but you

2976
02:08:07,669 --> 02:08:05,440
know it

2977
02:08:09,910 --> 02:08:07,679
that's that's the norm uh from what i'm

2978
02:08:11,830 --> 02:08:09,920
seeing that doesn't matter in this case

2979
02:08:14,629 --> 02:08:11,840
because a lot of people are really

2980
02:08:17,109 --> 02:08:14,639
given some some high praise for it so uh

2981
02:08:19,109 --> 02:08:17,119
so my compliments uh to to you and and

2982
02:08:21,589 --> 02:08:19,119
the entire staff leon was awesome to

2983
02:08:24,149 --> 02:08:21,599
work with uh when i first spoke to him i

2984
02:08:26,229 --> 02:08:24,159
was taken aback on just how professional

2985
02:08:27,270 --> 02:08:26,239
he was and how much he cared and you

2986
02:08:29,830 --> 02:08:27,280
could tell

2987
02:08:32,470 --> 02:08:29,840
so i was eager to to kind of get in the

2988
02:08:34,390 --> 02:08:32,480
chair so to speak and uh work with the

2989
02:08:36,870 --> 02:08:34,400
crew and they definitely delivered you

2990
02:08:39,430 --> 02:08:36,880
know i mean everybody on there was a

2991
02:08:41,910 --> 02:08:39,440
blast to work with and no complaints on

2992
02:08:47,270 --> 02:08:41,920
my end i had a great time and one of the

2993
02:08:51,030 --> 02:08:47,280
uh the cool things about this is uh your

2994
02:08:53,990 --> 02:08:51,040
your stuff uh that you brought was so

2995
02:08:55,589 --> 02:08:54,000
dynamic and so compelling that it is a

2996
02:08:57,750 --> 02:08:55,599
big part of the marketing push that's

2997
02:09:00,149 --> 02:08:57,760
going out and i'm looking at you know

2998
02:09:02,550 --> 02:09:00,159
i've i've seen all of the the footage

2999
02:09:04,870 --> 02:09:02,560
you know the the cutting room floor uh

3000
02:09:08,229 --> 02:09:04,880
so to speak and

3001
02:09:10,149 --> 02:09:08,239
and your content that is in the film

3002
02:09:12,870 --> 02:09:10,159
there is another film

3003
02:09:14,709 --> 02:09:12,880
left over from your

3004
02:09:17,669 --> 02:09:14,719
your stuff i mean and

3005
02:09:18,790 --> 02:09:17,679
and the outtakes uh that are out there

3006
02:09:20,790 --> 02:09:18,800
i'm thinking to myself you know there

3007
02:09:22,629 --> 02:09:20,800
are other people in this film besides

3008
02:09:26,310 --> 02:09:22,639
john greenwald

3009
02:09:29,990 --> 02:09:26,320
and but but that's you

3010
02:09:32,149 --> 02:09:30,000
you brought it and and were you

3011
02:09:33,030 --> 02:09:32,159
were you just ready to go was it go time

3012
02:09:34,950 --> 02:09:33,040
for you

3013
02:09:37,750 --> 02:09:34,960
where you just needed to get this stuff

3014
02:09:38,790 --> 02:09:37,760
out because you really expressed

3015
02:09:40,310 --> 02:09:38,800
yourself

3016
02:09:44,229 --> 02:09:40,320
well i appreciate that uh you know

3017
02:09:46,709 --> 02:09:44,239
whenever i do a a a project i always am

3018
02:09:48,870 --> 02:09:46,719
ready to go you know i mean i i

3019
02:09:50,870 --> 02:09:48,880
i understand the opposite side the

3020
02:09:52,709 --> 02:09:50,880
producer side i worked a lot for history

3021
02:09:55,669 --> 02:09:52,719
discovery nat geo we've talked a lot

3022
02:09:57,189 --> 02:09:55,679
about uh that on on your show before

3023
02:09:58,629 --> 02:09:57,199
and so i understand it when you get

3024
02:10:01,510 --> 02:09:58,639
somebody in the chair

3025
02:10:03,510 --> 02:10:01,520
it is not fun if they're not giving

3026
02:10:04,310 --> 02:10:03,520
their all if they're not

3027
02:10:05,910 --> 02:10:04,320
uh

3028
02:10:07,669 --> 02:10:05,920
caring about what they're talking about

3029
02:10:10,310 --> 02:10:07,679
if they're not appreciating the

3030
02:10:12,870 --> 02:10:10,320
production side uh the amount of work

3031
02:10:17,350 --> 02:10:12,880
that goes into it the amount of care the

3032
02:10:19,830 --> 02:10:17,360
amount of energy and mental energy and

3033
02:10:21,750 --> 02:10:19,840
there's so much that goes into it and so

3034
02:10:23,350 --> 02:10:21,760
uh i've been very blessed where i've

3035
02:10:25,830 --> 02:10:23,360
gotten to work on both sides of the

3036
02:10:28,470 --> 02:10:25,840
camera and whenever i'm in that seat and

3037
02:10:29,830 --> 02:10:28,480
the camera's pointed at me

3038
02:10:32,069 --> 02:10:29,840
i always try and give it my all it

3039
02:10:34,390 --> 02:10:32,079
doesn't matter what the the program is

3040
02:10:36,470 --> 02:10:34,400
because if i'm in that seat i've learned

3041
02:10:38,149 --> 02:10:36,480
enough to know that i want to do it

3042
02:10:40,149 --> 02:10:38,159
and that i'm going to give it my all

3043
02:10:42,790 --> 02:10:40,159
because i know that the other side is

3044
02:10:45,030 --> 02:10:42,800
giving their all so you know that's just

3045
02:10:46,870 --> 02:10:45,040
how i i love doing television and and i

3046
02:10:48,550 --> 02:10:46,880
have a blast doing it and

3047
02:10:50,470 --> 02:10:48,560
you know when i showed up that day and

3048
02:10:52,950 --> 02:10:50,480
and everybody was obviously a joy to

3049
02:10:56,149 --> 02:10:52,960
work with uh they made it easy you know

3050
02:10:59,030 --> 02:10:56,159
i mean they they had great questions and

3051
02:11:01,189 --> 02:10:59,040
uh that that was really i think um

3052
02:11:02,870 --> 02:11:01,199
the driving force behind it is you know

3053
02:11:04,310 --> 02:11:02,880
you got to have a great production staff

3054
02:11:05,430 --> 02:11:04,320
you got to have a great director you got

3055
02:11:07,030 --> 02:11:05,440
to have a great

3056
02:11:09,350 --> 02:11:07,040
dp you got to have

3057
02:11:11,350 --> 02:11:09,360
the team come together and make it and

3058
02:11:13,510 --> 02:11:11,360
and you could tell on this project

3059
02:11:15,350 --> 02:11:13,520
that's what they did so uh so i don't

3060
02:11:17,589 --> 02:11:15,360
think i did much i think they they made

3061
02:11:18,629 --> 02:11:17,599
me look good i didn't make me look good

3062
02:11:19,830 --> 02:11:18,639
there

3063
02:11:22,950 --> 02:11:19,840
uh

3064
02:11:25,589 --> 02:11:22,960
there's something to be said about how

3065
02:11:28,709 --> 02:11:25,599
much work you have done uh for this

3066
02:11:29,750 --> 02:11:28,719
community in the last 25 years

3067
02:11:33,990 --> 02:11:29,760
and

3068
02:11:35,189 --> 02:11:34,000
you've been very busy

3069
02:11:38,950 --> 02:11:35,199
but

3070
02:11:42,550 --> 02:11:38,960
did you have any idea what this last let

3071
02:11:46,790 --> 02:11:42,560
alone three years this last six months

3072
02:11:49,830 --> 02:11:46,800
this flurry of of activity and

3073
02:11:50,950 --> 02:11:49,840
and reveal it's like one thing after

3074
02:11:53,669 --> 02:11:50,960
another

3075
02:11:56,069 --> 02:11:53,679
uh getting bigger and bigger and bigger

3076
02:11:57,270 --> 02:11:56,079
this film was shot in the middle of that

3077
02:11:59,589 --> 02:11:57,280
madness

3078
02:12:02,390 --> 02:11:59,599
and released in the middle of that

3079
02:12:04,629 --> 02:12:02,400
madness yeah and and props again have to

3080
02:12:06,629 --> 02:12:04,639
be given for that because

3081
02:12:08,149 --> 02:12:06,639
when you sh when you shoot just on my

3082
02:12:10,390 --> 02:12:08,159
side when you're not the producer and

3083
02:12:12,470 --> 02:12:10,400
you're not part of the staff it's tough

3084
02:12:15,270 --> 02:12:12,480
enough you know i mean just just getting

3085
02:12:17,430 --> 02:12:15,280
out there during a pandemic and uh i

3086
02:12:20,390 --> 02:12:17,440
forget exactly the month that we shot

3087
02:12:22,470 --> 02:12:20,400
this but you know it's it's uh it's not

3088
02:12:24,950 --> 02:12:22,480
easy the production side though you've

3089
02:12:26,550 --> 02:12:24,960
got three thousand times the work you

3090
02:12:28,709 --> 02:12:26,560
know the work level there

3091
02:12:30,229 --> 02:12:28,719
and trying to make the pieces of the

3092
02:12:32,709 --> 02:12:30,239
puzzle fit together

3093
02:12:34,470 --> 02:12:32,719
and i don't envy that i mean television

3094
02:12:36,709 --> 02:12:34,480
was hard enough pre-pandemic when you're

3095
02:12:38,149 --> 02:12:36,719
trying to put together shoots organize

3096
02:12:40,470 --> 02:12:38,159
everybody's schedule get the crew

3097
02:12:41,750 --> 02:12:40,480
together figure out the story figure out

3098
02:12:45,270 --> 02:12:41,760
what you're gonna what you're gonna put

3099
02:12:47,589 --> 02:12:45,280
on screen that's tough enough add in uh

3100
02:12:49,510 --> 02:12:47,599
pandemic and and craziness depending

3101
02:12:51,510 --> 02:12:49,520
upon the state that you're shooting in

3102
02:12:53,669 --> 02:12:51,520
with all these different rules i mean

3103
02:12:56,069 --> 02:12:53,679
it's insane uh and and the amount of

3104
02:12:58,149 --> 02:12:56,079
rules that television has to follow uh

3105
02:13:02,069 --> 02:12:58,159
the first shoot that i did uh post

3106
02:13:05,589 --> 02:13:02,079
pandemic was uh showtime and uh and that

3107
02:13:07,990 --> 02:13:05,599
was really in a dark era of the pandemic

3108
02:13:10,390 --> 02:13:08,000
and i remember the amount of of

3109
02:13:12,470 --> 02:13:10,400
protocols that we all had to go through

3110
02:13:13,589 --> 02:13:12,480
to make that work now that's lessened a

3111
02:13:16,550 --> 02:13:13,599
little bit

3112
02:13:18,470 --> 02:13:16,560
but it's still incredibly challenging so

3113
02:13:20,709 --> 02:13:18,480
i you know again there's got to be a lot

3114
02:13:21,910 --> 02:13:20,719
of praise and kudos for the production

3115
02:13:23,589 --> 02:13:21,920
staff for getting it together because

3116
02:13:26,790 --> 02:13:23,599
this is not an easy time to do

3117
02:13:28,830 --> 02:13:26,800
television no it's certainly not and we

3118
02:13:31,990 --> 02:13:28,840
went from

3119
02:13:33,830 --> 02:13:32,000
uh again i'm going to say as producer i

3120
02:13:36,950 --> 02:13:33,840
appear in the film but

3121
02:13:39,830 --> 02:13:36,960
uh i brought the cast together

3122
02:13:41,030 --> 02:13:39,840
and and made all of those phone calls

3123
02:13:42,069 --> 02:13:41,040
and

3124
02:13:42,950 --> 02:13:42,079
uh

3125
02:13:45,270 --> 02:13:42,960
when

3126
02:13:47,589 --> 02:13:45,280
the production

3127
02:13:48,709 --> 02:13:47,599
company says to me

3128
02:13:50,790 --> 02:13:48,719
okay

3129
02:13:52,470 --> 02:13:50,800
this starts today

3130
02:13:54,069 --> 02:13:52,480
we are shooting

3131
02:13:56,550 --> 02:13:54,079
in weeks

3132
02:13:58,709 --> 02:13:56,560
we are editing the month after that we

3133
02:14:00,709 --> 02:13:58,719
are going to have a world premiere in

3134
02:14:03,030 --> 02:14:00,719
november and i'm thinking wait a minute

3135
02:14:03,910 --> 02:14:03,040
we're at the end of the summer

3136
02:14:06,310 --> 02:14:03,920
wait

3137
02:14:08,470 --> 02:14:06,320
hold on a minute no this

3138
02:14:11,589 --> 02:14:08,480
it's go time get this done

3139
02:14:12,950 --> 02:14:11,599
um you know what it takes right so i'm

3140
02:14:15,109 --> 02:14:12,960
calling you

3141
02:14:17,030 --> 02:14:15,119
and from that phone call

3142
02:14:19,990 --> 02:14:17,040
we went from shooting

3143
02:14:22,470 --> 02:14:20,000
to editing to special effects to titling

3144
02:14:23,589 --> 02:14:22,480
everything post product but music had to

3145
02:14:25,030 --> 02:14:23,599
be written

3146
02:14:27,830 --> 02:14:25,040
all of that

3147
02:14:30,709 --> 02:14:27,840
final delivery and this thing actually

3148
02:14:34,069 --> 02:14:30,719
premiered on time yeah which is also a

3149
02:14:38,229 --> 02:14:34,079
rarity that's a rare

3150
02:14:40,310 --> 02:14:38,239
um and and it's an excellent film it uh

3151
02:14:41,109 --> 02:14:40,320
everybody had to come together it wasn't

3152
02:14:43,830 --> 02:14:41,119
just

3153
02:14:45,430 --> 02:14:43,840
uh one thing it was a team and it was it

3154
02:14:47,750 --> 02:14:45,440
was a lot of passion

3155
02:14:48,709 --> 02:14:47,760
um going back to

3156
02:14:51,270 --> 02:14:48,719
uh

3157
02:14:53,910 --> 02:14:51,280
your sit down with roger

3158
02:14:55,910 --> 02:14:53,920
and leon and the crew

3159
02:14:59,510 --> 02:14:55,920
roger's style

3160
02:15:00,420 --> 02:14:59,520
uh his interview this conversational

3161
02:15:02,390 --> 02:15:00,430
way of

3162
02:15:04,069 --> 02:15:02,400
[Music]

3163
02:15:05,669 --> 02:15:04,079
you know drawing stuff out of you but

3164
02:15:08,069 --> 02:15:05,679
also painting

3165
02:15:10,629 --> 02:15:08,079
a picture because he's got to weave this

3166
02:15:12,390 --> 02:15:10,639
into this 3d thought and get it in he

3167
02:15:14,629 --> 02:15:12,400
knew what he was doing

3168
02:15:17,030 --> 02:15:14,639
uh what was it like for you to sit down

3169
02:15:19,430 --> 02:15:17,040
with a director like roger

3170
02:15:21,589 --> 02:15:19,440
and and have that conversation

3171
02:15:23,990 --> 02:15:21,599
yeah not to repeat myself

3172
02:15:26,149 --> 02:15:24,000
when you have a good crew like that and

3173
02:15:27,830 --> 02:15:26,159
a director producer writer

3174
02:15:29,189 --> 02:15:27,840
when you have people that understand

3175
02:15:31,109 --> 02:15:29,199
their vision

3176
02:15:33,030 --> 02:15:31,119
it makes it a lot easier for people like

3177
02:15:36,069 --> 02:15:33,040
me when you're asking being asked the

3178
02:15:37,750 --> 02:15:36,079
questions because if you answer honestly

3179
02:15:39,270 --> 02:15:37,760
and just naturally

3180
02:15:41,669 --> 02:15:39,280
that's what they need you know and

3181
02:15:43,589 --> 02:15:41,679
that's that's kudos to them not me

3182
02:15:47,109 --> 02:15:43,599
they're asking the right questions to

3183
02:15:49,189 --> 02:15:47,119
extract what they want and for me you

3184
02:15:52,470 --> 02:15:49,199
know i get a little insecure sometimes

3185
02:15:54,870 --> 02:15:52,480
you do a an interview and i will go over

3186
02:15:56,149 --> 02:15:54,880
it in my head for days thereafter you

3187
02:15:58,790 --> 02:15:56,159
know you're in the chair for two three

3188
02:16:01,189 --> 02:15:58,800
four hours you ask you answer you know

3189
02:16:03,270 --> 02:16:01,199
tons of questions i get insecure after

3190
02:16:05,030 --> 02:16:03,280
i've done a lot of these but i still to

3191
02:16:07,350 --> 02:16:05,040
this day get insecure and you start

3192
02:16:08,629 --> 02:16:07,360
evaluating and you start thinking about

3193
02:16:09,990 --> 02:16:08,639
well they're probably not going to use

3194
02:16:11,830 --> 02:16:10,000
that oh man i could have done that

3195
02:16:14,950 --> 02:16:11,840
better this and that and what was so

3196
02:16:16,790 --> 02:16:14,960
cool was that one of the first marketing

3197
02:16:18,950 --> 02:16:16,800
videos that i saw go out by the

3198
02:16:20,709 --> 02:16:18,960
observers twitter account

3199
02:16:22,950 --> 02:16:20,719
was one of the questions that i had

3200
02:16:24,870 --> 02:16:22,960
answered on artificial intelligence

3201
02:16:25,669 --> 02:16:24,880
and i'll be honest i

3202
02:16:50,469 --> 02:16:25,679
i

3203
02:16:51,990 --> 02:16:50,479
know what they want and that's what

3204
02:16:54,709 --> 02:16:52,000
makes it easy for people when you're in

3205
02:16:57,349 --> 02:16:54,719
the chair you just answer naturally and

3206
02:16:59,589 --> 02:16:57,359
that is what makes it in uh to the show

3207
02:17:02,150 --> 02:16:59,599
and um and so yeah that was a lot of fun

3208
02:17:04,870 --> 02:17:02,160
to see just simply because i'm so

3209
02:17:07,030 --> 02:17:04,880
fascinated by that topic and i was glad

3210
02:17:08,870 --> 02:17:07,040
that they found it worthwhile how

3211
02:17:10,309 --> 02:17:08,880
important is it

3212
02:17:14,150 --> 02:17:10,319
for

3213
02:17:17,589 --> 02:17:14,160
the community to keep the energy level

3214
02:17:20,870 --> 02:17:17,599
up right now to keep the pressure on

3215
02:17:23,270 --> 02:17:20,880
to keep this out and and of course on to

3216
02:17:26,549 --> 02:17:23,280
washington and in the department of

3217
02:17:27,990 --> 02:17:26,559
defense but not to sit back and go you

3218
02:17:30,230 --> 02:17:28,000
know the hard work has been done the

3219
02:17:34,230 --> 02:17:30,240
heavy lifting's been done uh they're

3220
02:17:36,070 --> 02:17:34,240
gonna disclose any minute now that's not

3221
02:17:39,110 --> 02:17:36,080
what we should be thinking right we need

3222
02:17:40,709 --> 02:17:39,120
to continue to keep the pressure yeah

3223
02:17:42,950 --> 02:17:40,719
keep the pressure keep the energy and

3224
02:17:45,589 --> 02:17:42,960
keep the conversation going and that's

3225
02:17:47,270 --> 02:17:45,599
what i think films like this do is that

3226
02:17:50,070 --> 02:17:47,280
you know it's very easy to start

3227
02:17:51,589 --> 02:17:50,080
forgetting about the leaps and bounds

3228
02:17:53,910 --> 02:17:51,599
that we've came in the last couple of

3229
02:17:55,830 --> 02:17:53,920
years and and of course in the in the

3230
02:17:58,309 --> 02:17:55,840
whole conversation not everybody's going

3231
02:18:00,549 --> 02:17:58,319
to agree but it's important to have the

3232
02:18:03,190 --> 02:18:00,559
conversation nonetheless to continue to

3233
02:18:06,150 --> 02:18:03,200
learn from each other i mean none of us

3234
02:18:08,870 --> 02:18:06,160
have the 100 right answer or undeniable

3235
02:18:11,270 --> 02:18:08,880
truth about it or you know we'd be on

3236
02:18:12,230 --> 02:18:11,280
nightly news nightly you know talking

3237
02:18:13,669 --> 02:18:12,240
about it

3238
02:18:16,070 --> 02:18:13,679
none of us have the answers but it's

3239
02:18:18,549 --> 02:18:16,080
important to keep the conversation going

3240
02:18:20,389 --> 02:18:18,559
and continue to figure out what the

3241
02:18:23,589 --> 02:18:20,399
right questions are to ask because it's

3242
02:18:25,429 --> 02:18:23,599
very easy to lose that momentum when we

3243
02:18:27,190 --> 02:18:25,439
don't have you know earth-shattering

3244
02:18:29,190 --> 02:18:27,200
headlines every other day

3245
02:18:31,110 --> 02:18:29,200
some people may get bored with it and

3246
02:18:33,509 --> 02:18:31,120
and it's important not to it's important

3247
02:18:35,429 --> 02:18:33,519
to see films like this to make films

3248
02:18:37,349 --> 02:18:35,439
like this so you can keep that

3249
02:18:38,389 --> 02:18:37,359
conversation going learn

3250
02:18:41,110 --> 02:18:38,399
new things

3251
02:18:44,230 --> 02:18:41,120
and even revisit old things you know

3252
02:18:46,389 --> 02:18:44,240
sometimes you need to rehash information

3253
02:18:48,790 --> 02:18:46,399
because it's important to see it and

3254
02:18:50,870 --> 02:18:48,800
hear it again and and we shouldn't be

3255
02:18:52,389 --> 02:18:50,880
afraid of doing that because again that

3256
02:18:54,629 --> 02:18:52,399
takes that conversation to the next

3257
02:18:55,910 --> 02:18:54,639
level and allows us to continue on

3258
02:18:57,669 --> 02:18:55,920
because if we

3259
02:18:59,429 --> 02:18:57,679
get bored forget about it we don't have

3260
02:19:02,150 --> 02:18:59,439
films like this to keep the conversation

3261
02:19:04,549 --> 02:19:02,160
going what happens well that cover-up

3262
02:19:06,070 --> 02:19:04,559
commences and nobody's asking questions

3263
02:19:08,389 --> 02:19:06,080
so they just kind of leave well enough

3264
02:19:09,830 --> 02:19:08,399
alone and the powers that be kind of get

3265
02:19:10,950 --> 02:19:09,840
off scot-free and that's what we don't

3266
02:19:13,429 --> 02:19:10,960
want to happen

3267
02:19:17,349 --> 02:19:13,439
you uh you you made this statement in

3268
02:19:21,030 --> 02:19:17,359
the film uh that i thought was pretty

3269
02:19:23,349 --> 02:19:21,040
dramatic even for john greenwald and and

3270
02:19:25,030 --> 02:19:23,359
you said i'm gonna paraphrase because i

3271
02:19:27,190 --> 02:19:25,040
can't get the whole thing in and i'm not

3272
02:19:28,870 --> 02:19:27,200
as elegant as you but

3273
02:19:30,230 --> 02:19:28,880
uh you said

3274
02:19:31,589 --> 02:19:30,240
it could be

3275
02:19:32,950 --> 02:19:31,599
a

3276
02:19:35,589 --> 02:19:32,960
it could be

3277
02:19:37,589 --> 02:19:35,599
be it could even be

3278
02:19:42,629 --> 02:19:37,599
c

3279
02:19:44,950 --> 02:19:42,639
that i do and i know a lot

3280
02:19:47,270 --> 02:19:44,960
i don't know what's going on and it

3281
02:19:49,510 --> 02:19:47,280
could be any of these

3282
02:19:51,110 --> 02:19:49,520
but it's our mission to go and try to

3283
02:19:53,110 --> 02:19:51,120
find out because they're not going to

3284
02:19:54,790 --> 02:19:53,120
give us those answers

3285
02:19:57,590 --> 02:19:54,800
yeah and and for you to make this

3286
02:20:00,630 --> 02:19:57,600
admission right where you know where

3287
02:20:04,150 --> 02:20:00,640
you've got volumes you've got terabytes

3288
02:20:06,950 --> 02:20:04,160
you've got servers of data and and

3289
02:20:08,070 --> 02:20:06,960
documents and and everything that you've

3290
02:20:09,990 --> 02:20:08,080
been doing

3291
02:20:12,309 --> 02:20:10,000
and you would think that you would have

3292
02:20:14,150 --> 02:20:12,319
some idea of what's going on

3293
02:20:15,830 --> 02:20:14,160
and you don't

3294
02:20:17,830 --> 02:20:15,840
yeah and and that's what i mean is that

3295
02:20:20,309 --> 02:20:17,840
we all don't have the truth yet it's

3296
02:20:22,389 --> 02:20:20,319
just not there and and whenever somebody

3297
02:20:24,070 --> 02:20:22,399
claims to have it

3298
02:20:26,150 --> 02:20:24,080
i turn the opposite direction go all

3299
02:20:27,830 --> 02:20:26,160
right that's a red flag because we don't

3300
02:20:30,550 --> 02:20:27,840
have all the information yet you know

3301
02:20:32,870 --> 02:20:30,560
and and i did this short uh video piece

3302
02:20:34,950 --> 02:20:32,880
on my youtube channel about

3303
02:20:37,590 --> 02:20:34,960
why the entire picture matters even the

3304
02:20:40,230 --> 02:20:37,600
minutia and and to kind of quickly

3305
02:20:42,630 --> 02:20:40,240
summarize it i showed a puzzle with an

3306
02:20:44,389 --> 02:20:42,640
incomplete middle and you know you look

3307
02:20:46,710 --> 02:20:44,399
at the edges and you put it all together

3308
02:20:49,030 --> 02:20:46,720
and you you got 50 of the puzzle and you

3309
02:20:51,670 --> 02:20:49,040
go okay you know this is potentially

3310
02:20:52,950 --> 02:20:51,680
something that we we know what the end

3311
02:20:54,870 --> 02:20:52,960
picture is

3312
02:20:56,950 --> 02:20:54,880
and then i fill in the rest of the

3313
02:20:58,790 --> 02:20:56,960
puzzle and it's something completely

3314
02:21:00,870 --> 02:20:58,800
different and it was a it was

3315
02:21:01,910 --> 02:21:00,880
essentially an illusion an optical

3316
02:21:03,590 --> 02:21:01,920
illusion

3317
02:21:05,270 --> 02:21:03,600
but you didn't know that until you saw

3318
02:21:07,429 --> 02:21:05,280
the whole puzzle that's what we're

3319
02:21:09,670 --> 02:21:07,439
living in when it comes to

3320
02:21:11,510 --> 02:21:09,680
ufos the ufo phenomena the

3321
02:21:14,150 --> 02:21:11,520
extraterrestrial presence in that whole

3322
02:21:17,270 --> 02:21:14,160
question we just don't have all the

3323
02:21:19,030 --> 02:21:17,280
pieces of the puzzle and it's human

3324
02:21:19,830 --> 02:21:19,040
nature to look at the pieces that we

3325
02:21:22,150 --> 02:21:19,840
have

3326
02:21:23,910 --> 02:21:22,160
and try and think what the middle is and

3327
02:21:26,630 --> 02:21:23,920
what the whole picture is

3328
02:21:29,030 --> 02:21:26,640
but truth be told we just don't have it

3329
02:21:31,429 --> 02:21:29,040
so that's why we shouldn't be afraid to

3330
02:21:32,950 --> 02:21:31,439
continue to ask questions to get the

3331
02:21:35,990 --> 02:21:32,960
small pieces of the puzzle we have yet

3332
02:21:38,150 --> 02:21:36,000
to get which albeit are very small but

3333
02:21:40,870 --> 02:21:38,160
it helps bring out the the bigger

3334
02:21:43,750 --> 02:21:40,880
picture and it was a easy uh and

3335
02:21:45,190 --> 02:21:43,760
simplistic way to visualize how i

3336
02:21:47,830 --> 02:21:45,200
operate i'm not saying it's right or

3337
02:21:48,790 --> 02:21:47,840
wrong i'm just saying that that's how i

3338
02:21:51,030 --> 02:21:48,800
look at

3339
02:21:53,190 --> 02:21:51,040
questions like this and that is of a

3340
02:21:55,190 --> 02:21:53,200
puzzle and we just need all the pieces

3341
02:21:55,990 --> 02:21:55,200
and right now we just don't have all of

3342
02:21:57,670 --> 02:21:56,000
them

3343
02:21:59,750 --> 02:21:57,680
i normally

3344
02:22:01,990 --> 02:21:59,760
uh and this is for the audience i

3345
02:22:03,990 --> 02:22:02,000
normally speak to john

3346
02:22:05,590 --> 02:22:04,000
once or twice a week picking his brain

3347
02:22:09,030 --> 02:22:05,600
trying to figure out what he's working

3348
02:22:11,110 --> 02:22:09,040
on and try to pry that out of him and

3349
02:22:12,790 --> 02:22:11,120
and we haven't done that as much lately

3350
02:22:14,630 --> 02:22:12,800
as we have done over the last couple of

3351
02:22:17,349 --> 02:22:14,640
years uh to be honest

3352
02:22:19,510 --> 02:22:17,359
but uh i have to ask you this since i'm

3353
02:22:21,190 --> 02:22:19,520
not doing it on the phone i'm gonna do

3354
02:22:23,830 --> 02:22:21,200
it on the air

3355
02:22:26,790 --> 02:22:23,840
you made a statement that uh

3356
02:22:29,429 --> 02:22:26,800
in the uaptf report

3357
02:22:31,270 --> 02:22:29,439
um and you mentioned this in the movie

3358
02:22:33,190 --> 02:22:31,280
um you said

3359
02:22:37,750 --> 02:22:33,200
they gave us some data there they said

3360
02:22:40,950 --> 02:22:37,760
144 cases one was solved for 143 left

3361
02:22:45,349 --> 02:22:40,960
that gives me stuff to go and chase i've

3362
02:22:47,270 --> 02:22:45,359
got 143 cases uh to go after

3363
02:22:49,670 --> 02:22:47,280
have you been able to do that

3364
02:22:53,190 --> 02:22:49,680
yeah so post that report i filed more

3365
02:22:55,910 --> 02:22:53,200
than 50 cases based on the information

3366
02:22:56,710 --> 02:22:55,920
and data in that unclassified report

3367
02:22:58,150 --> 02:22:56,720
and

3368
02:23:00,550 --> 02:22:58,160
the

3369
02:23:03,030 --> 02:23:00,560
key to using foia into research is you

3370
02:23:05,510 --> 02:23:03,040
essentially dig into every character and

3371
02:23:08,150 --> 02:23:05,520
every word in a report like that

3372
02:23:10,150 --> 02:23:08,160
and on the surface it looks like it was

3373
02:23:12,070 --> 02:23:10,160
very watered down which it was

3374
02:23:14,389 --> 02:23:12,080
but very watered down and didn't tell us

3375
02:23:16,389 --> 02:23:14,399
much but when you really dig in and

3376
02:23:17,590 --> 02:23:16,399
really evaluate what they said it gives

3377
02:23:19,110 --> 02:23:17,600
you leads

3378
02:23:21,510 --> 02:23:19,120
where those leads

3379
02:23:23,670 --> 02:23:21,520
end up is still

3380
02:23:25,990 --> 02:23:23,680
kind of an unknown i can tell you the

3381
02:23:27,910 --> 02:23:26,000
more than 50 cases filed one of which

3382
02:23:29,190 --> 02:23:27,920
was not even a foia case

3383
02:23:30,870 --> 02:23:29,200
it was under a code of federal

3384
02:23:35,190 --> 02:23:30,880
regulations which is

3385
02:23:37,670 --> 02:23:35,200
mandating dni to review the classified

3386
02:23:40,790 --> 02:23:37,680
report i had filed that this saturday

3387
02:23:42,870 --> 02:23:40,800
morning i have made headway on it we are

3388
02:23:46,710 --> 02:23:42,880
getting closer to a resolution i talked

3389
02:23:47,910 --> 02:23:46,720
to dni the office of the dni pretty much

3390
02:23:50,630 --> 02:23:47,920
once a week

3391
02:23:52,630 --> 02:23:50,640
getting updates on this case i've made

3392
02:23:54,870 --> 02:23:52,640
those updates very public in this

3393
02:23:56,550 --> 02:23:54,880
instance i usually don't do that

3394
02:23:58,230 --> 02:23:56,560
but i want people to see how long

3395
02:24:00,710 --> 02:23:58,240
sometimes it takes and how boring

3396
02:24:02,550 --> 02:24:00,720
sometimes it is to try and get this out

3397
02:24:03,429 --> 02:24:02,560
so we're making we're making headway

3398
02:24:05,750 --> 02:24:03,439
there

3399
02:24:08,070 --> 02:24:05,760
but those types of reports give you a

3400
02:24:10,309 --> 02:24:08,080
lot of what i call foya fodder and you

3401
02:24:12,070 --> 02:24:10,319
just have to chase it see where you end

3402
02:24:13,190 --> 02:24:12,080
up see what kind of information you can

3403
02:24:15,750 --> 02:24:13,200
extract

3404
02:24:17,510 --> 02:24:15,760
and see where we end up in the end i can

3405
02:24:20,469 --> 02:24:17,520
tell you briefly that there's a lot of

3406
02:24:22,230 --> 02:24:20,479
pushback i did one request that was

3407
02:24:24,550 --> 02:24:22,240
originally filed to the dod in the

3408
02:24:27,349 --> 02:24:24,560
pentagon that was then forwarded to the

3409
02:24:30,230 --> 02:24:27,359
navy and denied in full where i was

3410
02:24:31,190 --> 02:24:30,240
seeking all photos videos

3411
02:24:35,429 --> 02:24:31,200
and

3412
02:24:37,110 --> 02:24:35,439
all uap

3413
02:24:39,190 --> 02:24:37,120
cases that were sent over to the task

3414
02:24:41,510 --> 02:24:39,200
force it was denied in full that

3415
02:24:44,150 --> 02:24:41,520
everything 100 percent top to bottom was

3416
02:24:45,510 --> 02:24:44,160
classified now i've appealed that and i

3417
02:24:47,190 --> 02:24:45,520
have that case still going that was

3418
02:24:50,070 --> 02:24:47,200
about a week and a half ago

3419
02:24:51,270 --> 02:24:50,080
uh so although there's a lot of uh

3420
02:24:53,429 --> 02:24:51,280
positive

3421
02:24:55,750 --> 02:24:53,439
things happening and and we're making

3422
02:24:58,389 --> 02:24:55,760
headway in certain areas i'm getting a

3423
02:25:01,270 --> 02:24:58,399
lot of pushback as well on that legal

3424
02:25:03,670 --> 02:25:01,280
push and it's challenging uh you know

3425
02:25:05,510 --> 02:25:03,680
and it puts kind of a

3426
02:25:07,190 --> 02:25:05,520
puts kind of a negative

3427
02:25:08,870 --> 02:25:07,200
spin on

3428
02:25:10,870 --> 02:25:08,880
how some people think that we're on the

3429
02:25:13,750 --> 02:25:10,880
cusp of disclosure and now there's this

3430
02:25:15,510 --> 02:25:13,760
new era aura i should say of

3431
02:25:17,030 --> 02:25:15,520
transparency

3432
02:25:19,110 --> 02:25:17,040
sadly

3433
02:25:21,670 --> 02:25:19,120
from a legal standpoint it doesn't look

3434
02:25:23,270 --> 02:25:21,680
that way you know and i know there's a

3435
02:25:24,950 --> 02:25:23,280
lot of hope that the senate is going to

3436
02:25:26,550 --> 02:25:24,960
make some some headway there and maybe

3437
02:25:29,110 --> 02:25:26,560
new bills will pass and we'll get some

3438
02:25:31,030 --> 02:25:29,120
more information and i hope that happens

3439
02:25:33,510 --> 02:25:31,040
but until that stuff passes we don't

3440
02:25:36,070 --> 02:25:33,520
know we got to operate in the now and in

3441
02:25:37,030 --> 02:25:36,080
the now they're pushing back hard so

3442
02:25:39,349 --> 02:25:37,040
they're

3443
02:25:41,910 --> 02:25:39,359
although talking about uaps in a way

3444
02:25:43,510 --> 02:25:41,920
they haven't for many many decades uh in

3445
02:25:46,630 --> 02:25:43,520
the same respect they're continuing the

3446
02:25:48,550 --> 02:25:46,640
secrecy so it's very exciting but in the

3447
02:25:50,469 --> 02:25:48,560
same breath you have to say that it's

3448
02:25:52,950 --> 02:25:50,479
very challenging as well to continue

3449
02:25:56,150 --> 02:25:52,960
this and try and find the answers so are

3450
02:25:57,510 --> 02:25:56,160
you suggesting so i'm understanding the

3451
02:26:01,910 --> 02:25:57,520
numbers here

3452
02:26:04,469 --> 02:26:01,920
out of those 50 requests from those 140

3453
02:26:08,150 --> 02:26:04,479
that number of 143

3454
02:26:11,030 --> 02:26:08,160
you've gotten action on just one

3455
02:26:13,670 --> 02:26:11,040
no so the the one that i mentioned was a

3456
02:26:15,750 --> 02:26:13,680
mdr case uh mandatory declassification

3457
02:26:18,630 --> 02:26:15,760
review and and that is the one that i

3458
02:26:21,429 --> 02:26:18,640
very much made public a lot of the other

3459
02:26:23,590 --> 02:26:21,439
cases that i filed again 50 plus

3460
02:26:25,670 --> 02:26:23,600
are not necessarily just based on going

3461
02:26:26,630 --> 02:26:25,680
after the 143

3462
02:26:28,150 --> 02:26:26,640
um

3463
02:26:29,510 --> 02:26:28,160
and really i'm going after the solved

3464
02:26:31,030 --> 02:26:29,520
case too because i want to see the

3465
02:26:33,190 --> 02:26:31,040
information on that so it's not

3466
02:26:35,270 --> 02:26:33,200
necessarily going after the 144 cases

3467
02:26:38,230 --> 02:26:35,280
they evaluated but i'm going for

3468
02:26:39,429 --> 02:26:38,240
everything i dig into communications i

3469
02:26:41,510 --> 02:26:39,439
dig into

3470
02:26:44,309 --> 02:26:41,520
uh other information passed back and

3471
02:26:45,590 --> 02:26:44,319
forth between agencies obviously dni or

3472
02:26:47,910 --> 02:26:45,600
the director of national intelligence

3473
02:26:50,150 --> 02:26:47,920
they're the ones that created the report

3474
02:26:52,389 --> 02:26:50,160
that you and i in the world saw

3475
02:26:54,710 --> 02:26:52,399
but within that there were about 14

3476
02:26:57,590 --> 02:26:54,720
different government agencies that all

3477
02:26:59,590 --> 02:26:57,600
played a role some small some large

3478
02:27:01,990 --> 02:26:59,600
when i've talked to dni

3479
02:27:05,110 --> 02:27:02,000
in that specific case they are

3480
02:27:07,670 --> 02:27:05,120
communicating with all 14 plus agencies

3481
02:27:10,389 --> 02:27:07,680
that played a role because each of those

3482
02:27:13,429 --> 02:27:10,399
agencies have to review their respective

3483
02:27:15,270 --> 02:27:13,439
uh contributions to that report because

3484
02:27:17,830 --> 02:27:15,280
they are the ones that are responsible

3485
02:27:20,389 --> 02:27:17,840
for saying okay yes you can declassify

3486
02:27:22,389 --> 02:27:20,399
this and give it to john or no you can't

3487
02:27:23,750 --> 02:27:22,399
and it's classified for this reason so

3488
02:27:25,910 --> 02:27:23,760
that's why it's taking a little bit of

3489
02:27:28,630 --> 02:27:25,920
time but in addition to that case yeah

3490
02:27:32,309 --> 02:27:28,640
there's 50 plus where i'm going directly

3491
02:27:34,550 --> 02:27:32,319
to the navy directly to the uh nro

3492
02:27:37,190 --> 02:27:34,560
directly to the nga

3493
02:27:39,030 --> 02:27:37,200
directly to those agencies and go okay i

3494
02:27:41,670 --> 02:27:39,040
want all the emails passed back and

3495
02:27:43,429 --> 02:27:41,680
forth between you and dni and then in

3496
02:27:44,870 --> 02:27:43,439
addition you go for

3497
02:27:46,309 --> 02:27:44,880
well you've contributed something to

3498
02:27:49,429 --> 02:27:46,319
this report so you obviously got

3499
02:27:52,630 --> 02:27:49,439
something on uaps so you create cases

3500
02:27:53,349 --> 02:27:52,640
going for those types of uh data sets

3501
02:27:55,510 --> 02:27:53,359
and

3502
02:27:57,510 --> 02:27:55,520
depending upon the the agency you go to

3503
02:27:59,270 --> 02:27:57,520
you're asking for you know various

3504
02:28:01,270 --> 02:27:59,280
particular data sets whether it be

3505
02:28:03,830 --> 02:28:01,280
satellite imagery whether it be reports

3506
02:28:05,590 --> 02:28:03,840
photographs and potentially videos you

3507
02:28:07,750 --> 02:28:05,600
just formulate the request for that

3508
02:28:10,550 --> 02:28:07,760
agency and go from there so i've got a

3509
02:28:13,670 --> 02:28:10,560
lot of stuff still processing but uh you

3510
02:28:16,070 --> 02:28:13,680
know it's it's it's essentially

3511
02:28:18,070 --> 02:28:16,080
i've used the analogy of of a tree uh

3512
02:28:19,910 --> 02:28:18,080
when you when you file a foia or you get

3513
02:28:22,070 --> 02:28:19,920
foia documents back and your trunk is

3514
02:28:24,469 --> 02:28:22,080
essentially the report the data the what

3515
02:28:26,790 --> 02:28:24,479
you're originally looking at and that

3516
02:28:29,349 --> 02:28:26,800
branches off into

3517
02:28:32,230 --> 02:28:29,359
5 10 20 and in this case more than 50

3518
02:28:34,070 --> 02:28:32,240
other branches to get information once

3519
02:28:36,870 --> 02:28:34,080
that comes in those branches are going

3520
02:28:38,870 --> 02:28:36,880
to branch off into so many other places

3521
02:28:41,429 --> 02:28:38,880
it's why in 25 years i've filed more

3522
02:28:44,230 --> 02:28:41,439
than 10 000 cases is because you

3523
02:28:46,950 --> 02:28:44,240
literally dig into every ounce of

3524
02:28:49,110 --> 02:28:46,960
information you get and squeeze it dry

3525
02:28:51,990 --> 02:28:49,120
and you just keep going and going a lot

3526
02:28:55,030 --> 02:28:52,000
of times it comes up empty and and those

3527
02:28:57,270 --> 02:28:55,040
are never fun other times you get gems

3528
02:28:59,110 --> 02:28:57,280
and you get gold and uh

3529
02:29:02,230 --> 02:28:59,120
you know one one particular document i

3530
02:29:04,230 --> 02:29:02,240
just got revealed a uap case that had

3531
02:29:07,349 --> 02:29:04,240
never been revealed before this came uh

3532
02:29:10,230 --> 02:29:07,359
48 hours ago that i wrote the article

3533
02:29:11,830 --> 02:29:10,240
a uap case by an f-18 pilot we had not

3534
02:29:12,790 --> 02:29:11,840
heard about this in the general public

3535
02:29:14,389 --> 02:29:12,800
before

3536
02:29:16,389 --> 02:29:14,399
there was a classified briefing in

3537
02:29:19,110 --> 02:29:16,399
january of 2019

3538
02:29:21,349 --> 02:29:19,120
and uh there's material there and that

3539
02:29:22,469 --> 02:29:21,359
all was extracted from one small single

3540
02:29:25,590 --> 02:29:22,479
paragraph

3541
02:29:28,150 --> 02:29:25,600
on a 12 i think a 12 page document that

3542
02:29:30,230 --> 02:29:28,160
i chased for more than two years and i

3543
02:29:31,910 --> 02:29:30,240
finally got it and that one paragraph

3544
02:29:34,070 --> 02:29:31,920
revealed something that the general

3545
02:29:36,870 --> 02:29:34,080
public had no idea

3546
02:29:39,349 --> 02:29:36,880
existed or happened and uh spoke to the

3547
02:29:41,670 --> 02:29:39,359
pentagon yesterday tried to get any

3548
02:29:44,550 --> 02:29:41,680
information about the cl the briefing

3549
02:29:46,710 --> 02:29:44,560
and uh they said it was a classified

3550
02:29:49,030 --> 02:29:46,720
briefing therefore they would not

3551
02:29:51,349 --> 02:29:49,040
comment on it so i have other cases

3552
02:29:54,070 --> 02:29:51,359
filed on it through foia but when it

3553
02:29:55,670 --> 02:29:54,080
comes to the public affairs you know

3554
02:29:56,630 --> 02:29:55,680
they didn't want to didn't want to talk

3555
02:29:58,389 --> 02:29:56,640
about it

3556
02:29:59,990 --> 02:29:58,399
but that's what i always stress in in

3557
02:30:01,429 --> 02:30:00,000
interviews like this and also my own

3558
02:30:02,870 --> 02:30:01,439
videos is that

3559
02:30:05,670 --> 02:30:02,880
even though sometimes on the surface

3560
02:30:07,830 --> 02:30:05,680
things don't look interesting

3561
02:30:09,670 --> 02:30:07,840
read every character because you realize

3562
02:30:11,190 --> 02:30:09,680
you can pick something up and build off

3563
02:30:13,429 --> 02:30:11,200
of it and that's what we need to

3564
02:30:15,270 --> 02:30:13,439
continue doing yeah it was an incredible

3565
02:30:17,590 --> 02:30:15,280
headline from you when i read it well

3566
02:30:19,990 --> 02:30:17,600
here's an f-18 uap

3567
02:30:21,030 --> 02:30:20,000
uh encounter and briefing we didn't know

3568
02:30:21,830 --> 02:30:21,040
about

3569
02:30:24,150 --> 02:30:21,840
yeah

3570
02:30:26,070 --> 02:30:24,160
and it was fun i spent quite a quite a

3571
02:30:28,710 --> 02:30:26,080
few hours trying to make sure that that

3572
02:30:30,950 --> 02:30:28,720
was accurate and spoke to uh you know

3573
02:30:32,950 --> 02:30:30,960
brian bender from politico

3574
02:30:35,910 --> 02:30:32,960
who's broken a lot of these stories and

3575
02:30:37,990 --> 02:30:35,920
i really tried to to disprove that that

3576
02:30:39,510 --> 02:30:38,000
maybe it was you know let's say ryan

3577
02:30:41,830 --> 02:30:39,520
graves but by the way i talked to ryan

3578
02:30:44,309 --> 02:30:41,840
graves and it's not him but you know

3579
02:30:46,870 --> 02:30:44,319
trying to disprove that and couldn't

3580
02:30:48,870 --> 02:30:46,880
nobody knew about it that i spoke with

3581
02:30:51,429 --> 02:30:48,880
and talked to another quite a few other

3582
02:30:53,349 --> 02:30:51,439
people who highly trusted and said hey

3583
02:30:54,150 --> 02:30:53,359
you know you're familiar with this and

3584
02:30:56,790 --> 02:30:54,160
um

3585
02:30:58,950 --> 02:30:56,800
and and it was unrevealed so it was it

3586
02:31:00,790 --> 02:30:58,960
was brand new so and then the squadron

3587
02:31:04,710 --> 02:31:00,800
had never been revealed before as having

3588
02:31:06,630 --> 02:31:04,720
a uap encounter this was 103 right

3589
02:31:09,270 --> 02:31:06,640
yeah vfa 103 which are known as the

3590
02:31:11,750 --> 02:31:09,280
jolly rogers right i saw that yeah yeah

3591
02:31:13,429 --> 02:31:11,760
so they're stationed at nas oceana uh

3592
02:31:14,389 --> 02:31:13,439
oceana which is in virginia beach

3593
02:31:16,630 --> 02:31:14,399
virginia

3594
02:31:18,309 --> 02:31:16,640
no stranger to uap encounters they've

3595
02:31:20,950 --> 02:31:18,319
had quite a few

3596
02:31:22,150 --> 02:31:20,960
the drive's warzone had reported a lot

3597
02:31:24,150 --> 02:31:22,160
of navy

3598
02:31:25,510 --> 02:31:24,160
reports eight i believe that they

3599
02:31:27,590 --> 02:31:25,520
reported on

3600
02:31:30,710 --> 02:31:27,600
three different squadrons from nas

3601
02:31:33,030 --> 02:31:30,720
oceana none of which were vfa 103 so

3602
02:31:36,870 --> 02:31:33,040
again further supporting that whatever

3603
02:31:38,630 --> 02:31:36,880
this case is is 100 brand new

3604
02:31:42,150 --> 02:31:38,640
john thank you

3605
02:31:44,790 --> 02:31:42,160
the film is going to be a crazy wild

3606
02:31:47,190 --> 02:31:44,800
ride and you're a big part of that i'm

3607
02:31:49,750 --> 02:31:47,200
so happy that we are able to finally

3608
02:31:50,870 --> 02:31:49,760
after all these years uh work together

3609
02:31:54,469 --> 02:31:50,880
directly

3610
02:31:55,990 --> 02:31:54,479
um this is just an amazing picture and

3611
02:31:58,230 --> 02:31:56,000
you're such a big part of it you're the

3612
02:31:59,510 --> 02:31:58,240
lead you're the lead man you're you're

3613
02:32:02,550 --> 02:31:59,520
act one

3614
02:32:04,389 --> 02:32:02,560
so thank you so much it's my pleasure

3615
02:32:06,710 --> 02:32:04,399
and i had a blast and honestly my

3616
02:32:08,389 --> 02:32:06,720
congratulations to you i know you've got

3617
02:32:11,030 --> 02:32:08,399
leon i forget in your schedule if he's

3618
02:32:13,349 --> 02:32:11,040
after me or before me but uh please pass

3619
02:32:15,270 --> 02:32:13,359
on my compliments to him and the entire

3620
02:32:17,990 --> 02:32:15,280
staff and crew they were awesome to work

3621
02:32:20,070 --> 02:32:18,000
with uh i'm seeing great reviews on it

3622
02:32:21,590 --> 02:32:20,080
online already so you know my

3623
02:32:23,510 --> 02:32:21,600
compliments to you guys because i know

3624
02:32:26,469 --> 02:32:23,520
that it was no easy feat thank you so

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02:32:28,150 --> 02:32:26,479
much john now uh go file a document

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02:32:29,910 --> 02:32:28,160
request all right i'm going i'm going to

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02:32:31,750 --> 02:32:29,920
bed jimmy i'll talk to you man that'll

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02:32:33,750 --> 02:32:31,760
be tomorrow good job

3629
02:32:36,469 --> 02:32:33,760
have a good one congrats again you too

3630
02:32:39,110 --> 02:32:36,479
john thank you and again on behalf of

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02:32:40,710 --> 02:32:39,120
everybody here thank you for all of your

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hard work thank you my friend i

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appreciate it john greenwald i am your

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host jimmy church we are celebrating the

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release the worldwide premiere of the

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observers coming up next i have leon

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kennedy and director roger richards

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all right welcome back fade to block i

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02:36:57,830 --> 02:36:55,760
am your host jimmy church tonight we are

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02:37:00,150 --> 02:36:57,840
celebrating the worldwide premiere of

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02:37:03,990 --> 02:37:00,160
the observers

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02:37:05,830 --> 02:37:04,000
an amazing amazing show tonight and uh

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02:37:07,670 --> 02:37:05,840
before we continue

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02:37:09,510 --> 02:37:07,680
uh i want to thank linda molten howe and

3710
02:37:12,469 --> 02:37:09,520
whitley strieber and richard dolan and

3711
02:37:13,590 --> 02:37:12,479
john greenwald and debbie cobble

3712
02:37:25,349 --> 02:37:13,600
a

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02:37:28,070 --> 02:37:25,359
film together for us but

3714
02:37:30,790 --> 02:37:28,080
saving the best for last i have got

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02:37:31,590 --> 02:37:30,800
executive producer leon kennedy with

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02:37:34,230 --> 02:37:31,600
this

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02:37:36,790 --> 02:37:34,240
and director roger richards gentlemen

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02:37:39,190 --> 02:37:36,800
good evening how are you

3719
02:37:41,270 --> 02:37:39,200
how are you doing

3720
02:37:43,670 --> 02:37:41,280
well it's great great great to be here

3721
02:37:45,910 --> 02:37:43,680
with you jimmy it's uh and this is the

3722
02:37:47,270 --> 02:37:45,920
deal roger the boss is here so we have

3723
02:37:50,150 --> 02:37:47,280
to behave

3724
02:37:54,070 --> 02:37:50,160
will do yeah i know right the pressure's

3725
02:37:55,510 --> 02:37:54,080
on the pressure's on and and um uh and i

3726
02:37:57,750 --> 02:37:55,520
want to uh

3727
02:38:00,870 --> 02:37:57,760
throw things over to you

3728
02:38:04,630 --> 02:38:00,880
uh first i'm actually gonna uh point

3729
02:38:08,230 --> 02:38:04,640
this at roger and here's the question

3730
02:38:13,030 --> 02:38:08,240
in a film like this you are the director

3731
02:38:17,349 --> 02:38:13,040
so you are essentially entitled right

3732
02:38:18,790 --> 02:38:17,359
you you are uh given uh a crown

3733
02:38:22,309 --> 02:38:18,800
and uh

3734
02:38:26,389 --> 02:38:22,319
and some directors abuse that uh some

3735
02:38:29,110 --> 02:38:26,399
don't i was very impressed uh with your

3736
02:38:31,429 --> 02:38:29,120
with your style but

3737
02:38:34,150 --> 02:38:31,439
how much freedom uh

3738
02:38:36,320 --> 02:38:34,160
do you have as director

3739
02:38:38,550 --> 02:38:36,330
and do you actually answer to leon

3740
02:38:41,110 --> 02:38:38,560
[Laughter]

3741
02:38:42,870 --> 02:38:41,120
no thankfully i think uh we all answer

3742
02:38:45,190 --> 02:38:42,880
to each other the the way this

3743
02:38:47,270 --> 02:38:45,200
collective works you know um from a

3744
02:38:49,990 --> 02:38:47,280
creative contribution standpoint is more

3745
02:38:51,910 --> 02:38:50,000
of like a round table in in my opinion

3746
02:38:53,910 --> 02:38:51,920
and there are certain responsibilities

3747
02:38:56,230 --> 02:38:53,920
obviously that you know each one of us

3748
02:38:58,309 --> 02:38:56,240
take in the stewardship of you know each

3749
02:39:01,190 --> 02:38:58,319
project in a collaboration like that and

3750
02:39:03,750 --> 02:39:01,200
so i think everybody is just more so

3751
02:39:05,750 --> 02:39:03,760
from the standpoint of you know somebody

3752
02:39:07,190 --> 02:39:05,760
in charge it's more about understanding

3753
02:39:09,429 --> 02:39:07,200
certain roles and responsibilities that

3754
02:39:11,190 --> 02:39:09,439
we're all claiming you know contribution

3755
02:39:13,510 --> 02:39:11,200
you know to and so

3756
02:39:16,150 --> 02:39:13,520
this you know this film but all the

3757
02:39:19,429 --> 02:39:16,160
films i've worked on um you know this

3758
02:39:21,110 --> 02:39:19,439
isn't like a a a hardcore vision of mine

3759
02:39:24,309 --> 02:39:21,120
that i'm demanding everybody do

3760
02:39:25,750 --> 02:39:24,319
everything to my you know uh specs i

3761
02:39:27,030 --> 02:39:25,760
know some directors are like that out

3762
02:39:29,270 --> 02:39:27,040
there and that's there and there are

3763
02:39:31,590 --> 02:39:29,280
some that are genius like that but for

3764
02:39:33,270 --> 02:39:31,600
from my standpoint um the experiences

3765
02:39:35,750 --> 02:39:33,280
i've had so far are mostly about

3766
02:39:38,550 --> 02:39:35,760
contributionism and collaboration and as

3767
02:39:40,630 --> 02:39:38,560
a director i i hold the responsibility

3768
02:39:43,190 --> 02:39:40,640
and i raise my hand for carrying the

3769
02:39:45,270 --> 02:39:43,200
message and you know pulling the message

3770
02:39:46,870 --> 02:39:45,280
out of the film so the narrative arc

3771
02:39:49,110 --> 02:39:46,880
that you see there and everything that's

3772
02:39:50,070 --> 02:39:49,120
laid into kind of the message is you

3773
02:39:52,870 --> 02:39:50,080
know

3774
02:39:55,190 --> 02:39:52,880
blessed in that way by me and the end as

3775
02:39:57,030 --> 02:39:55,200
far as uh you know the message that goes

3776
02:39:59,030 --> 02:39:57,040
out there and then the contributions of

3777
02:40:01,030 --> 02:39:59,040
everyone as far as the production

3778
02:40:03,270 --> 02:40:01,040
quality everything that goes into that

3779
02:40:05,030 --> 02:40:03,280
the set design you know uh one of the

3780
02:40:06,710 --> 02:40:05,040
things i loved about this shoot was the

3781
02:40:09,190 --> 02:40:06,720
set that adrian youngblood found you

3782
02:40:11,349 --> 02:40:09,200
know it's very like stanley kubrick like

3783
02:40:13,429 --> 02:40:11,359
i love that whole whole vibe i didn't

3784
02:40:15,510 --> 02:40:13,439
take credit for that and so that whole

3785
02:40:17,990 --> 02:40:15,520
experience of you know all of us

3786
02:40:19,990 --> 02:40:18,000
contributing to a round table is more so

3787
02:40:21,910 --> 02:40:20,000
what creates these films and i find in

3788
02:40:23,510 --> 02:40:21,920
that place that's where you find magic

3789
02:40:25,429 --> 02:40:23,520
you know debbie cobbles a great example

3790
02:40:27,510 --> 02:40:25,439
you were talking to her earlier you know

3791
02:40:29,670 --> 02:40:27,520
she came on as an interviewee for uh

3792
02:40:31,429 --> 02:40:29,680
linda moulton howe and it just it was my

3793
02:40:33,349 --> 02:40:31,439
instinct to go further and and she

3794
02:40:35,750 --> 02:40:33,359
became a bigger part of this film as you

3795
02:40:37,910 --> 02:40:35,760
know somebody that's not very well known

3796
02:40:40,150 --> 02:40:37,920
but has had a very credible real

3797
02:40:41,830 --> 02:40:40,160
experience you know like whitley so

3798
02:40:44,550 --> 02:40:41,840
you know it's a round table

3799
02:40:46,830 --> 02:40:44,560
well okay so that's the political answer

3800
02:40:49,590 --> 02:40:46,840
because leon is here

3801
02:40:51,590 --> 02:40:49,600
listening now this isn't the first

3802
02:40:54,389 --> 02:40:51,600
picture that you guys have done together

3803
02:40:55,750 --> 02:40:54,399
right but leon uh be straight with me

3804
02:40:57,830 --> 02:40:55,760
right now

3805
02:41:02,710 --> 02:40:57,840
did you ever uh how many times did you

3806
02:41:05,110 --> 02:41:02,720
call up uh roger and go no

3807
02:41:07,830 --> 02:41:05,120
no i i never called him and never called

3808
02:41:12,389 --> 02:41:07,840
him and said no i called him and said

3809
02:41:17,110 --> 02:41:14,389
for over an hour

3810
02:41:17,990 --> 02:41:17,120
because we have to do this this and this

3811
02:41:20,150 --> 02:41:18,000
but

3812
02:41:22,469 --> 02:41:20,160
what roger said is very true this is a

3813
02:41:25,750 --> 02:41:22,479
collective energy

3814
02:41:28,630 --> 02:41:25,760
and all of us it's not just roger not

3815
02:41:30,870 --> 02:41:28,640
just me but all of us together within

3816
02:41:32,950 --> 02:41:30,880
our collective team

3817
02:41:36,150 --> 02:41:32,960
we bounce off of each other it's it's

3818
02:41:38,630 --> 02:41:36,160
really a great ping pong and with you

3819
02:41:42,230 --> 02:41:38,640
jimmy i i must say this that i have been

3820
02:41:45,510 --> 02:41:42,240
a jimmy church fan for a long long time

3821
02:41:48,630 --> 02:41:45,520
and to get to work with you

3822
02:41:50,870 --> 02:41:48,640
and you and i talked every single day

3823
02:41:53,510 --> 02:41:50,880
yes and we had some great days and we

3824
02:41:55,190 --> 02:41:53,520
had some harrowing days but it's always

3825
02:41:57,349 --> 02:41:55,200
like that when you're putting together

3826
02:42:00,469 --> 02:41:57,359
something that is uh

3827
02:42:02,150 --> 02:42:00,479
extra extra special for those of you

3828
02:42:04,710 --> 02:42:02,160
that are listening

3829
02:42:06,630 --> 02:42:04,720
this is not entertainment

3830
02:42:08,070 --> 02:42:06,640
this is pure

3831
02:42:11,590 --> 02:42:08,080
energy

3832
02:42:13,670 --> 02:42:11,600
and a creative force of knowledge

3833
02:42:17,110 --> 02:42:13,680
that is being released

3834
02:42:20,070 --> 02:42:17,120
into the universe into society

3835
02:42:21,510 --> 02:42:20,080
and into each individual that's ready to

3836
02:42:23,269 --> 02:42:21,520
accept it

3837
02:42:24,790 --> 02:42:23,279
and when you're doing something that

3838
02:42:26,950 --> 02:42:24,800
profound

3839
02:42:28,150 --> 02:42:26,960
it's not easy i'm always reminded you

3840
02:42:29,990 --> 02:42:28,160
know i looked at everything from the

3841
02:42:32,870 --> 02:42:30,000
spiritual point of view so i'm always

3842
02:42:36,510 --> 02:42:32,880
reminded of that verse we wrestle not

3843
02:42:39,590 --> 02:42:36,520
against flesh and blood but against

3844
02:42:41,750 --> 02:42:39,600
principalities strongholds and spiritual

3845
02:42:44,550 --> 02:42:41,760
wickedness in high places

3846
02:42:45,910 --> 02:42:44,560
so there is a great war going on between

3847
02:42:47,590 --> 02:42:45,920
the dark

3848
02:42:50,070 --> 02:42:47,600
and the light

3849
02:42:51,990 --> 02:42:50,080
and if you're trying to bring in light

3850
02:42:53,190 --> 02:42:52,000
if you're trying to bring in the purity

3851
02:42:55,750 --> 02:42:53,200
of truth

3852
02:42:59,230 --> 02:42:55,760
you're going to get a lot of resistance

3853
02:43:01,190 --> 02:42:59,240
so one has to pray through

3854
02:43:01,990 --> 02:43:01,200
strategically pray

3855
02:43:04,550 --> 02:43:02,000
through

3856
02:43:08,469 --> 02:43:04,560
to bring in what we have brought in

3857
02:43:11,349 --> 02:43:08,479
particular documentary now leon as the

3858
02:43:13,830 --> 02:43:11,359
executive producer um with a shared

3859
02:43:16,070 --> 02:43:13,840
vision with the crew

3860
02:43:17,190 --> 02:43:16,080
um but you're still the executive

3861
02:43:19,190 --> 02:43:17,200
producer

3862
02:43:21,590 --> 02:43:19,200
is this the film that you set out to

3863
02:43:26,070 --> 02:43:24,230
you know it's actually

3864
02:43:28,790 --> 02:43:26,080
far beyond

3865
02:43:30,389 --> 02:43:28,800
what any of us set out to make

3866
02:43:31,990 --> 02:43:30,399
because each

3867
02:43:34,309 --> 02:43:32,000
component

3868
02:43:36,790 --> 02:43:34,319
was at the top of their game

3869
02:43:39,190 --> 02:43:36,800
and brought in

3870
02:43:41,750 --> 02:43:39,200
so much more than you even thought they

3871
02:43:42,950 --> 02:43:41,760
were bringing in first of all

3872
02:43:52,070 --> 02:43:42,960
you

3873
02:43:54,150 --> 02:43:52,080
to this piece and then with each of our

3874
02:43:56,230 --> 02:43:54,160
dream cast

3875
02:43:59,670 --> 02:43:56,240
and i i really mean that when i say a

3876
02:44:01,349 --> 02:43:59,680
dream cast because all of these people

3877
02:44:04,469 --> 02:44:01,359
that contributed

3878
02:44:07,269 --> 02:44:04,479
they have been in the trenches working

3879
02:44:10,870 --> 02:44:07,279
and pushing and pulling

3880
02:44:12,150 --> 02:44:10,880
for truth and for facts and to get them

3881
02:44:14,950 --> 02:44:12,160
out

3882
02:44:16,870 --> 02:44:14,960
and to bring them all together

3883
02:44:18,550 --> 02:44:16,880
and to see what happened

3884
02:44:21,110 --> 02:44:18,560
was wonderful

3885
02:44:21,910 --> 02:44:21,120
then when we go into the production of

3886
02:44:25,349 --> 02:44:21,920
it

3887
02:44:28,389 --> 02:44:25,359
between the cameramen that we have i'm

3888
02:44:30,710 --> 02:44:28,399
talking about chris and adam and some of

3889
02:44:32,950 --> 02:44:30,720
the other crew and roger mentioned

3890
02:44:36,389 --> 02:44:32,960
adrian and i have to mention maureen and

3891
02:44:39,030 --> 02:44:36,399
the things that she contributed to and

3892
02:44:42,870 --> 02:44:39,040
all the people that we had

3893
02:44:44,630 --> 02:44:42,880
uh the music with renee and and uh

3894
02:44:47,349 --> 02:44:44,640
other people that contributed to the

3895
02:44:49,910 --> 02:44:47,359
music i

3896
02:44:51,590 --> 02:44:49,920
when you see the baby birth

3897
02:44:53,510 --> 02:44:51,600
it's just

3898
02:44:55,990 --> 02:44:53,520
it humbles you that's all i can really

3899
02:44:57,190 --> 02:44:56,000
say it's a humbling experience

3900
02:44:58,630 --> 02:44:57,200
now uh

3901
02:45:02,710 --> 02:44:58,640
roger

3902
02:45:05,429 --> 02:45:02,720
how cool is it what kind of confidence

3903
02:45:07,030 --> 02:45:05,439
uh is instilled in you

3904
02:45:07,990 --> 02:45:07,040
when you see

3905
02:45:12,630 --> 02:45:08,000
uh

3906
02:45:14,630 --> 02:45:12,640
carrying around a stack of notes three

3907
02:45:16,550 --> 02:45:14,640
inches thick

3908
02:45:19,349 --> 02:45:16,560
day in and day out

3909
02:45:21,429 --> 02:45:19,359
taking notes and and his attention to

3910
02:45:23,269 --> 02:45:21,439
detail that's got to give you a certain

3911
02:45:25,190 --> 02:45:23,279
amount of confidence

3912
02:45:27,590 --> 02:45:25,200
yeah most definitely and i think you

3913
02:45:28,389 --> 02:45:27,600
know with leon what i've come to really

3914
02:45:30,550 --> 02:45:28,399
appreciate

3915
02:45:32,469 --> 02:45:30,560
about him is just the wealth of

3916
02:45:34,710 --> 02:45:32,479
knowledge that he carries you know the

3917
02:45:37,510 --> 02:45:34,720
walk if anybody looks into leon's life

3918
02:45:39,269 --> 02:45:37,520
and understands the the type of people

3919
02:45:42,469 --> 02:45:39,279
that you've shared experiences with over

3920
02:45:44,469 --> 02:45:42,479
generations um you know the the broad

3921
02:45:46,309 --> 02:45:44,479
scope of knowledge that you have from

3922
02:45:47,750 --> 02:45:46,319
you know from the perspective of uh

3923
02:45:49,910 --> 02:45:47,760
being a part of the black community

3924
02:45:52,230 --> 02:45:49,920
being a part of you know creating the

3925
02:45:53,990 --> 02:45:52,240
first kind of level of independent

3926
02:45:55,830 --> 02:45:54,000
filmmakers in the black community in

3927
02:45:57,990 --> 02:45:55,840
addition to your spiritual work and just

3928
02:45:59,910 --> 02:45:58,000
kind of all of that for me as a

3929
02:46:02,469 --> 02:45:59,920
filmmaker being able to you know work

3930
02:46:03,990 --> 02:46:02,479
with a producer in that experience um

3931
02:46:05,830 --> 02:46:04,000
you know who's been in that world and

3932
02:46:08,150 --> 02:46:05,840
knows that but also has this this

3933
02:46:10,550 --> 02:46:08,160
knowledge base you know look like the

3934
02:46:13,910 --> 02:46:10,560
the message in the observers is so

3935
02:46:15,510 --> 02:46:13,920
complex and it's an aggregate of all of

3936
02:46:17,910 --> 02:46:15,520
this understanding that kind of like

3937
02:46:19,590 --> 02:46:17,920
fits into the world of what we call the

3938
02:46:21,429 --> 02:46:19,600
truth community or the disclosure

3939
02:46:23,110 --> 02:46:21,439
community but it's really not just about

3940
02:46:25,429 --> 02:46:23,120
ufos it's about you know suppressed

3941
02:46:27,269 --> 02:46:25,439
technology it's about secret government

3942
02:46:29,429 --> 02:46:27,279
you know access programs that we're

3943
02:46:31,349 --> 02:46:29,439
experimenting on public it's about you

3944
02:46:35,030 --> 02:46:31,359
know targeted individuals that this

3945
02:46:37,750 --> 02:46:35,040
whole experience of you know things of

3946
02:46:39,990 --> 02:46:37,760
that are people experiencing exotic

3947
02:46:42,710 --> 02:46:40,000
technology kind of fits under the

3948
02:46:45,510 --> 02:46:42,720
umbrella of the ufo disclosure community

3949
02:46:47,269 --> 02:46:45,520
but when you're looking at kind of the

3950
02:46:49,590 --> 02:46:47,279
procession that's happened over the

3951
02:46:52,389 --> 02:46:49,600
decades especially since the the 30s and

3952
02:46:55,670 --> 02:46:52,399
40s up until now um you know there's

3953
02:46:57,110 --> 02:46:55,680
very few people that can kind of look

3954
02:46:58,710 --> 02:46:57,120
against uh

3955
02:47:01,030 --> 02:46:58,720
you know so many things that have

3956
02:47:03,750 --> 02:47:01,040
happened and with leon i i mean going

3957
02:47:07,030 --> 02:47:03,760
back to you knowing uh you know martin

3958
02:47:09,110 --> 02:47:07,040
luther king and uh you know all of the

3959
02:47:11,429 --> 02:47:09,120
people that you've been lucky enough to

3960
02:47:13,269 --> 02:47:11,439
experience that knowledge base to be

3961
02:47:15,510 --> 02:47:13,279
able to check myself against as i'm

3962
02:47:16,950 --> 02:47:15,520
creating or working against and to get

3963
02:47:19,349 --> 02:47:16,960
you know one of the things i love about

3964
02:47:22,230 --> 02:47:19,359
leon the most is like dude here comes

3965
02:47:25,030 --> 02:47:22,240
another leon story and it's the you know

3966
02:47:27,269 --> 02:47:25,040
it's it's the metaphor it's the it's the

3967
02:47:29,990 --> 02:47:27,279
it's time to sit down slow down mr

3968
02:47:31,590 --> 02:47:30,000
creative you know uh bunny rabbit and

3969
02:47:33,269 --> 02:47:31,600
and here's something there's some

3970
02:47:34,790 --> 02:47:33,279
knowledge and so when you were bringing

3971
02:47:35,590 --> 02:47:34,800
up the conversation earlier about you

3972
02:47:37,830 --> 02:47:35,600
know is

3973
02:47:39,750 --> 02:47:37,840
leon ever say no and leon's response was

3974
02:47:42,070 --> 02:47:39,760
i'm usually just on my knees praying

3975
02:47:44,469 --> 02:47:42,080
that's that's the type of relationship

3976
02:47:46,309 --> 02:47:44,479
he has uh with me and i have with him

3977
02:47:48,710 --> 02:47:46,319
because he knows i'm going to listen

3978
02:47:50,870 --> 02:47:48,720
when i'm i'm i'm pushing things too far

3979
02:47:53,429 --> 02:47:50,880
in regards to the message i'm i'll go

3980
02:47:55,990 --> 02:47:53,439
all in and um but there's a there's a

3981
02:47:57,750 --> 02:47:56,000
walk that you have to have in regards of

3982
02:48:01,670 --> 02:47:57,760
just not driving everybody crazy and so

3983
02:48:03,830 --> 02:48:01,680
leon is is great enough to be able to um

3984
02:48:05,830 --> 02:48:03,840
you know work with me and i and i look

3985
02:48:10,070 --> 02:48:05,840
at him as a mentor in that space as a

3986
02:48:12,550 --> 02:48:10,080
creator um and then the ability to to to

3987
02:48:14,150 --> 02:48:12,560
to push the lemvits like i am uh you

3988
02:48:16,230 --> 02:48:14,160
know not a lot of people get that so i'm

3989
02:48:18,309 --> 02:48:16,240
very very very happy with the the whole

3990
02:48:20,389 --> 02:48:18,319
relationship between all of us in this

3991
02:48:25,190 --> 02:48:20,399
film yeah i love the moments i've had

3992
02:48:32,950 --> 02:48:27,349
i need to say he goes

3993
02:48:37,030 --> 02:48:35,510
and i take it man and it's been so

3994
02:48:38,070 --> 02:48:37,040
effective leon

3995
02:48:39,830 --> 02:48:38,080
um

3996
02:48:41,190 --> 02:48:39,840
real briefly because i want to get to

3997
02:48:42,830 --> 02:48:41,200
some other stuff

3998
02:48:46,309 --> 02:48:42,840
but uh

3999
02:48:48,790 --> 02:48:46,319
your uh career in hollywood

4000
02:48:51,830 --> 02:48:48,800
was a great one things were rolling for

4001
02:48:55,429 --> 02:48:51,840
you but you chose to walk away

4002
02:48:56,830 --> 02:48:55,439
and and you did just that but here you

4003
02:49:01,269 --> 02:48:56,840
are again

4004
02:49:03,349 --> 02:49:01,279
uh you've done uh uh three four five you

4005
02:49:05,590 --> 02:49:03,359
know back-to-back productions

4006
02:49:08,309 --> 02:49:05,600
uh working with roger

4007
02:49:10,469 --> 02:49:08,319
um and and you are back and we just

4008
02:49:13,269 --> 02:49:10,479
finished the observers

4009
02:49:17,349 --> 02:49:13,279
what what compelled you is it

4010
02:49:19,990 --> 02:49:17,359
is it is it disclosure is it is it et is

4011
02:49:21,990 --> 02:49:20,000
there something else that brought you

4012
02:49:27,110 --> 02:49:22,000
back into the mix with us

4013
02:49:31,190 --> 02:49:28,870
brought you back

4014
02:49:34,630 --> 02:49:31,200
well i i will take direction from you

4015
02:49:37,190 --> 02:49:34,640
and and go real brief

4016
02:49:39,190 --> 02:49:37,200
i was at the top of my game i had had a

4017
02:49:41,110 --> 02:49:39,200
number one film number one independent

4018
02:49:43,269 --> 02:49:41,120
film of the year i was on lifestyles

4019
02:49:45,990 --> 02:49:43,279
with rich and famous i was over

4020
02:49:48,870 --> 02:49:46,000
on over 100 covers of magazines and so

4021
02:49:50,070 --> 02:49:48,880
on so forth every film that i did was a

4022
02:49:53,190 --> 02:49:50,080
hit film

4023
02:49:55,750 --> 02:49:53,200
and then a very strange thing happened

4024
02:49:58,150 --> 02:49:55,760
god yanked me out of hollywood and

4025
02:49:59,510 --> 02:49:58,160
nothing tragic happened it was just a

4026
02:50:00,550 --> 02:49:59,520
pull of god

4027
02:50:02,790 --> 02:50:00,560
saying

4028
02:50:05,510 --> 02:50:02,800
no you're going somewhere else and i

4029
02:50:07,990 --> 02:50:05,520
went into ministry it shocked everyone

4030
02:50:10,630 --> 02:50:08,000
and i paid no attention to hollywood for

4031
02:50:13,110 --> 02:50:10,640
a good 15 16 years

4032
02:50:15,910 --> 02:50:13,120
and then about two

4033
02:50:17,750 --> 02:50:15,920
three years ago he put it in my spirit

4034
02:50:19,750 --> 02:50:17,760
i want you to always stay in ministry

4035
02:50:22,630 --> 02:50:19,760
but i want you to come back now use

4036
02:50:24,870 --> 02:50:22,640
hollywood as a platform to do good

4037
02:50:28,150 --> 02:50:24,880
and use the money for good

4038
02:50:30,070 --> 02:50:28,160
and so he said do transformational films

4039
02:50:32,630 --> 02:50:30,080
and documentaries

4040
02:50:35,190 --> 02:50:32,640
in other words films that will inspire

4041
02:50:38,150 --> 02:50:35,200
and touch the soul

4042
02:50:40,710 --> 02:50:38,160
and that's exactly what the observers is

4043
02:50:43,510 --> 02:50:40,720
it's not entertainment

4044
02:50:45,910 --> 02:50:43,520
it's a transformational film

4045
02:50:47,510 --> 02:50:45,920
for an individual and hopefully for

4046
02:50:51,030 --> 02:50:47,520
society

4047
02:50:53,349 --> 02:50:51,040
now um and i talked to roger about this

4048
02:50:56,710 --> 02:50:53,359
uh before

4049
02:50:58,309 --> 02:50:56,720
you can't have especially in today's

4050
02:51:01,110 --> 02:50:58,319
world with all of the streaming

4051
02:51:03,110 --> 02:51:01,120
platforms in youtube and and the great

4052
02:51:07,030 --> 02:51:03,120
talent that is out there

4053
02:51:09,670 --> 02:51:07,040
uh who can express themselves without

4054
02:51:11,750 --> 02:51:09,680
a hollywood film company telling them

4055
02:51:13,190 --> 02:51:11,760
yes or no or what to do you have the

4056
02:51:15,510 --> 02:51:13,200
freedom now

4057
02:51:17,349 --> 02:51:15,520
uh to let your expressions go to let

4058
02:51:20,309 --> 02:51:17,359
your creativity go

4059
02:51:22,150 --> 02:51:20,319
and that has elevated the level of the

4060
02:51:24,150 --> 02:51:22,160
the production value

4061
02:51:26,710 --> 02:51:24,160
has to be there today

4062
02:51:29,590 --> 02:51:26,720
so you can have all the message that you

4063
02:51:30,710 --> 02:51:29,600
want like there is in the observers but

4064
02:51:33,670 --> 02:51:30,720
today

4065
02:51:36,150 --> 02:51:33,680
people have high expectations for

4066
02:51:37,830 --> 02:51:36,160
the visual and the production too you

4067
02:51:41,510 --> 02:51:37,840
can't have one without the other today

4068
02:51:46,230 --> 02:51:43,910
it's a synergy that you have to put

4069
02:51:48,230 --> 02:51:46,240
together now you can have something

4070
02:51:50,469 --> 02:51:48,240
that's that's beautiful you can have

4071
02:51:52,070 --> 02:51:50,479
something that's high budgeted if it's a

4072
02:51:54,389 --> 02:51:52,080
movie you can have the biggest movie

4073
02:51:56,790 --> 02:51:54,399
stars in the world but if there's not a

4074
02:51:58,070 --> 02:51:56,800
story there but it doesn't really mean

4075
02:52:00,870 --> 02:51:58,080
anything

4076
02:52:02,469 --> 02:52:00,880
in this situation what really means

4077
02:52:05,030 --> 02:52:02,479
something with this

4078
02:52:08,070 --> 02:52:05,040
it's got everything it's got the quality

4079
02:52:09,030 --> 02:52:08,080
it's got the look it's got the music

4080
02:52:10,710 --> 02:52:09,040
but

4081
02:52:13,830 --> 02:52:10,720
there's truth

4082
02:52:16,389 --> 02:52:13,840
and people can sniff truth right even

4083
02:52:17,429 --> 02:52:16,399
with our cast i was so

4084
02:52:18,469 --> 02:52:17,439
taken

4085
02:52:20,790 --> 02:52:18,479
by

4086
02:52:21,830 --> 02:52:20,800
a veteran like whitley

4087
02:52:24,309 --> 02:52:21,840
when he

4088
02:52:25,510 --> 02:52:24,319
talked in glowing terms

4089
02:52:28,389 --> 02:52:25,520
about

4090
02:52:29,830 --> 02:52:28,399
this documentary when he saw the

4091
02:52:30,710 --> 02:52:29,840
finished product

4092
02:52:33,110 --> 02:52:30,720
uh

4093
02:52:36,710 --> 02:52:33,120
linda moulton howe some of the

4094
02:52:38,950 --> 02:52:36,720
most glowing things that she said uh

4095
02:52:41,190 --> 02:52:38,960
for example i remember where she wrote

4096
02:52:43,429 --> 02:52:41,200
and she said may this work help try open

4097
02:52:45,190 --> 02:52:43,439
the long suppressed truth

4098
02:52:47,190 --> 02:52:45,200
that we're not alone

4099
02:52:49,670 --> 02:52:47,200
in this universe

4100
02:52:52,710 --> 02:52:49,680
this is a deep power in the evolution of

4101
02:52:56,630 --> 02:52:52,720
truth to truth to truth woven in the

4102
02:52:58,790 --> 02:52:56,640
unrelenting and haunting production

4103
02:53:01,830 --> 02:52:58,800
uh coming from linda

4104
02:53:04,070 --> 02:53:01,840
that's a whole lot said

4105
02:53:05,750 --> 02:53:04,080
yeah and uh uh

4106
02:53:08,870 --> 02:53:05,760
william henry

4107
02:53:10,630 --> 02:53:08,880
uh posted out in social media uh

4108
02:53:13,429 --> 02:53:10,640
this one line

4109
02:53:15,349 --> 02:53:13,439
uh this i i'm paraphrasing but he said

4110
02:53:18,070 --> 02:53:15,359
that this may be

4111
02:53:19,830 --> 02:53:18,080
this may be the greatest documentary uh

4112
02:53:22,150 --> 02:53:19,840
made on this subject

4113
02:53:24,790 --> 02:53:22,160
and coming from william you know a

4114
02:53:25,750 --> 02:53:24,800
producer of ancient aliens you know and

4115
02:53:29,429 --> 02:53:25,760
and

4116
02:53:31,750 --> 02:53:29,439
but

4117
02:53:33,349 --> 02:53:31,760
this film is impacting

4118
02:53:35,349 --> 02:53:33,359
the cast

4119
02:53:38,150 --> 02:53:35,359
who has been doing this for a very long

4120
02:53:39,910 --> 02:53:38,160
time and it makes me step back and go

4121
02:53:43,269 --> 02:53:39,920
okay it's not just me

4122
02:53:46,070 --> 02:53:43,279
we do have something uh magical here

4123
02:53:47,750 --> 02:53:46,080
and uh i want to uh throw this over to

4124
02:53:50,630 --> 02:53:47,760
roger roger i know that

4125
02:53:52,389 --> 02:53:50,640
uh you were uh listening to

4126
02:53:54,389 --> 02:53:52,399
uh the show

4127
02:53:56,950 --> 02:53:54,399
and one of

4128
02:53:59,429 --> 02:53:56,960
one of the things that i have recognized

4129
02:54:00,950 --> 02:53:59,439
and we all talked about tonight

4130
02:54:04,150 --> 02:54:00,960
is although

4131
02:54:05,670 --> 02:54:04,160
none of us really understood

4132
02:54:09,910 --> 02:54:05,680
your

4133
02:54:12,230 --> 02:54:09,920
methodology

4134
02:54:13,670 --> 02:54:12,240
of asking questions

4135
02:54:14,550 --> 02:54:13,680
but um

4136
02:54:19,910 --> 02:54:14,560
you

4137
02:54:22,710 --> 02:54:19,920
to weave this thing together ultimately

4138
02:54:25,190 --> 02:54:22,720
along with you know chris issa who who

4139
02:54:28,630 --> 02:54:25,200
deserves a huge amount of props uh for

4140
02:54:29,510 --> 02:54:28,640
his his his skills in this film but

4141
02:54:31,910 --> 02:54:29,520
um

4142
02:54:33,269 --> 02:54:31,920
did you really have that 3d vision did

4143
02:54:34,950 --> 02:54:33,279
you know

4144
02:54:37,910 --> 02:54:34,960
that this thing was gonna

4145
02:54:40,309 --> 02:54:37,920
get put together the way that it was or

4146
02:54:43,510 --> 02:54:40,319
was it because you were given

4147
02:54:46,389 --> 02:54:43,520
the dialogue um and then you saw the

4148
02:54:47,830 --> 02:54:46,399
vision after what came first right the

4149
02:54:50,469 --> 02:54:47,840
chicken or the egg

4150
02:54:52,710 --> 02:54:50,479
exactly i think well that's a really

4151
02:54:54,710 --> 02:54:52,720
awesome question to preface this with

4152
02:54:57,349 --> 02:54:54,720
because this is what we're facing right

4153
02:54:58,950 --> 02:54:57,359
now we're facing the quantum reality of

4154
02:55:01,190 --> 02:54:58,960
one and zero at the same time the

4155
02:55:03,190 --> 02:55:01,200
chicken in the egg at the same time and

4156
02:55:05,349 --> 02:55:03,200
so the experience of creating that film

4157
02:55:08,550 --> 02:55:05,359
was was very much the same thing it's

4158
02:55:11,030 --> 02:55:08,560
like you know as a person that has uh

4159
02:55:12,870 --> 02:55:11,040
experienced my own things i don't talk

4160
02:55:15,910 --> 02:55:12,880
about them publicly but that's you know

4161
02:55:17,269 --> 02:55:15,920
a big part of uh the the major part of

4162
02:55:18,710 --> 02:55:17,279
why i do the work that i do is to

4163
02:55:20,389 --> 02:55:18,720
understand these things on an

4164
02:55:23,349 --> 02:55:20,399
intellectual level and pull them apart

4165
02:55:25,670 --> 02:55:23,359
myself and all their complexities and so

4166
02:55:27,670 --> 02:55:25,680
knowing the conversation that has been

4167
02:55:29,269 --> 02:55:27,680
the truth community so well and loving

4168
02:55:32,150 --> 02:55:29,279
that community so much that that

4169
02:55:36,790 --> 02:55:32,160
community is the some of the most

4170
02:55:38,710 --> 02:55:36,800
brave uh crazy uh you know deep people

4171
02:55:41,269 --> 02:55:38,720
out there because they're people that

4172
02:55:43,349 --> 02:55:41,279
are truly seeking outside of the norms

4173
02:55:45,990 --> 02:55:43,359
of their programming you know what

4174
02:55:47,830 --> 02:55:46,000
you've been served up here and

4175
02:55:50,710 --> 02:55:47,840
you know that community is also ripe

4176
02:55:52,710 --> 02:55:50,720
with people that have experienced exotic

4177
02:55:54,950 --> 02:55:52,720
technologies and all different types of

4178
02:55:56,550 --> 02:55:54,960
things in that way and so we are you

4179
02:55:59,190 --> 02:55:56,560
know

4180
02:56:00,870 --> 02:55:59,200
this this group this family of people

4181
02:56:03,269 --> 02:56:00,880
that are trying to work out for the

4182
02:56:04,710 --> 02:56:03,279
larger collective consciousness the you

4183
02:56:06,790 --> 02:56:04,720
know kind of the murmuration that's

4184
02:56:08,389 --> 02:56:06,800
going to help pull everybody to a

4185
02:56:09,990 --> 02:56:08,399
greater understanding around these

4186
02:56:12,389 --> 02:56:10,000
realities because they they are

4187
02:56:14,790 --> 02:56:12,399
unfolding in front of our eyes right now

4188
02:56:16,550 --> 02:56:14,800
and so that experience of kind of

4189
02:56:18,230 --> 02:56:16,560
knowing that community

4190
02:56:20,070 --> 02:56:18,240
was pulled into my questions with you

4191
02:56:21,910 --> 02:56:20,080
guys i know all you guys i know all your

4192
02:56:24,389 --> 02:56:21,920
work you know you guys

4193
02:56:26,309 --> 02:56:24,399
have very particular uh

4194
02:56:29,269 --> 02:56:26,319
different archetypes that you hold each

4195
02:56:32,550 --> 02:56:29,279
of you and so my intention was to create

4196
02:56:34,469 --> 02:56:32,560
a very natural conversation around the

4197
02:56:36,230 --> 02:56:34,479
complexities of this greater

4198
02:56:37,830 --> 02:56:36,240
conversation that was happening and

4199
02:56:39,830 --> 02:56:37,840
knowing you guys enough to know how to

4200
02:56:41,750 --> 02:56:39,840
talk to you and then finding the gems

4201
02:56:43,429 --> 02:56:41,760
out of that experience and then you know

4202
02:56:45,190 --> 02:56:43,439
it's it's really about being present in

4203
02:56:46,710 --> 02:56:45,200
that space with you guys and just seeing

4204
02:56:48,630 --> 02:56:46,720
where where those things go and

4205
02:56:50,469 --> 02:56:48,640
listening to instinct and you know just

4206
02:56:52,710 --> 02:56:50,479
all of that stuff and then

4207
02:56:55,269 --> 02:56:52,720
you get all of that you know which in

4208
02:56:57,429 --> 02:56:55,279
the end is 20 hours or so of you know

4209
02:57:00,230 --> 02:56:57,439
footage and you you sit there as a

4210
02:57:03,429 --> 02:57:00,240
filmmaker like i did and you go into you

4211
02:57:05,429 --> 02:57:03,439
know in my case the mad you know kind of

4212
02:57:07,349 --> 02:57:05,439
out of body experience trying to scrub

4213
02:57:09,510 --> 02:57:07,359
through you know hours and hours of

4214
02:57:12,070 --> 02:57:09,520
dialogue and and form a mosaic and a

4215
02:57:14,150 --> 02:57:12,080
tapestry that is a collective story and

4216
02:57:16,150 --> 02:57:14,160
that's for me it's like everybody you

4217
02:57:18,070 --> 02:57:16,160
know it's like i have a unique style

4218
02:57:20,790 --> 02:57:18,080
from the standpoint of trying to tell a

4219
02:57:23,670 --> 02:57:20,800
collective story through multiple voices

4220
02:57:26,469 --> 02:57:23,680
against you know music and images in a

4221
02:57:28,630 --> 02:57:26,479
way that lands in the subconscious and

4222
02:57:30,550 --> 02:57:28,640
not so much of a choppy space it's more

4223
02:57:32,790 --> 02:57:30,560
of a how it was done traditionally where

4224
02:57:35,190 --> 02:57:32,800
you would sit around a fire you know and

4225
02:57:36,710 --> 02:57:35,200
you would breathe in you know the the

4226
02:57:38,710 --> 02:57:36,720
light and the flickering and you would

4227
02:57:40,710 --> 02:57:38,720
hear your grandfather talk about stories

4228
02:57:42,230 --> 02:57:40,720
or or those types of things that's the

4229
02:57:44,150 --> 02:57:42,240
way that i was trying to kind of create

4230
02:57:45,750 --> 02:57:44,160
this film and where i was going and you

4231
02:57:48,070 --> 02:57:45,760
know i see that it turned out that way

4232
02:57:49,830 --> 02:57:48,080
and it's it's a very apropos dialogue

4233
02:57:51,990 --> 02:57:49,840
for what is playing out right here in

4234
02:57:53,990 --> 02:57:52,000
this moment and i hope people watch it

4235
02:57:56,070 --> 02:57:54,000
once twice three four times until they

4236
02:57:58,790 --> 02:57:56,080
can understand it all yeah you pulled it

4237
02:58:01,030 --> 02:57:58,800
off roger for sure and you and the rest

4238
02:58:03,349 --> 02:58:01,040
of the team and leon i'm just gonna let

4239
02:58:05,990 --> 02:58:03,359
you know that i i uh

4240
02:58:08,710 --> 02:58:06,000
roger uh agreed

4241
02:58:11,269 --> 02:58:08,720
earlier today to take me to his tattoo

4242
02:58:13,110 --> 02:58:11,279
shop and i'm gonna get a neck i'm gonna

4243
02:58:18,950 --> 02:58:13,120
get a neck tattoo

4244
02:58:23,429 --> 02:58:20,150
i'm gonna make sure it's above the

4245
02:58:25,990 --> 02:58:23,439
neckline uh as well and uh

4246
02:58:27,429 --> 02:58:26,000
we pulled it off gentlemen we we did it

4247
02:58:31,590 --> 02:58:27,439
as a team

4248
02:58:33,510 --> 02:58:31,600
uh we met this deadline we are now here

4249
02:58:36,469 --> 02:58:33,520
to take a deep breath and celebrate

4250
02:58:39,030 --> 02:58:36,479
together uh the release of this film

4251
02:58:41,190 --> 02:58:39,040
and this is the other thing

4252
02:58:43,510 --> 02:58:41,200
i've got two minutes left i want your

4253
02:58:45,590 --> 02:58:43,520
reaction to this because

4254
02:58:46,870 --> 02:58:45,600
although there's a sense of relief and

4255
02:58:49,670 --> 02:58:46,880
happiness

4256
02:58:50,630 --> 02:58:49,680
i have the strange feeling

4257
02:58:53,190 --> 02:58:50,640
that

4258
02:58:55,190 --> 02:58:53,200
this film is going to stir a lot of

4259
02:58:57,670 --> 02:58:55,200
discussion and emotion

4260
02:59:00,150 --> 02:58:57,680
and our work is not done

4261
02:59:01,830 --> 02:59:00,160
it wasn't in the casting it wasn't in

4262
02:59:04,309 --> 02:59:01,840
the shooting it wasn't in the editing it

4263
02:59:06,550 --> 02:59:04,319
wasn't in the music it wasn't ever all

4264
02:59:07,910 --> 02:59:06,560
of that work that we uh this entire team

4265
02:59:09,750 --> 02:59:07,920
put together

4266
02:59:12,630 --> 02:59:09,760
uh i have the feeling

4267
02:59:15,349 --> 02:59:12,640
we're about to just start this journey

4268
02:59:18,630 --> 02:59:15,359
do you feel that way leon

4269
02:59:20,870 --> 02:59:18,640
absolutely two things i want to say

4270
02:59:23,190 --> 02:59:20,880
i want to ask our listeners to write

4271
02:59:26,070 --> 02:59:23,200
their own mini reviews after they've

4272
02:59:28,150 --> 02:59:26,080
seen it i want them to share it it will

4273
02:59:29,910 --> 02:59:28,160
make a great christmas present and so on

4274
02:59:32,630 --> 02:59:29,920
and so forth so share it with as many

4275
02:59:34,550 --> 02:59:32,640
people as they can great because i am

4276
02:59:37,190 --> 02:59:34,560
convinced jimmy

4277
02:59:39,190 --> 02:59:37,200
that we cannot wait for disclosure to

4278
02:59:40,870 --> 02:59:39,200
come from the government this is

4279
02:59:41,750 --> 02:59:40,880
supposed to be a government of the

4280
02:59:44,309 --> 02:59:41,760
people

4281
02:59:47,429 --> 02:59:44,319
i think that disclosure will come from

4282
02:59:51,429 --> 02:59:47,439
thousands and then tens of thousands

4283
02:59:54,150 --> 02:59:51,439
presenting their own observances

4284
02:59:56,389 --> 02:59:54,160
couldn't have been said better uh

4285
02:59:59,670 --> 02:59:56,399
roger the work has just started man we

4286
03:00:01,750 --> 02:59:59,680
can't we can't rest can we no we can't

4287
03:00:03,190 --> 03:00:01,760
and the the gas is you know got to be

4288
03:00:05,269 --> 03:00:03,200
the the pedal's got to be kept on the

4289
03:00:07,110 --> 03:00:05,279
floor there for sure and i think um

4290
03:00:09,110 --> 03:00:07,120
that's where we're going the the

4291
03:00:11,830 --> 03:00:09,120
observer's movement the ability to

4292
03:00:13,830 --> 03:00:11,840
observe anomalies collectively and to

4293
03:00:15,670 --> 03:00:13,840
talk about them hashtag about them into

4294
03:00:17,990 --> 03:00:15,680
an algorithm that we can search as a

4295
03:00:20,230 --> 03:00:18,000
database this understanding of a digital

4296
03:00:23,110 --> 03:00:20,240
direct action movement of people that

4297
03:00:25,510 --> 03:00:23,120
are you know really focused at observing

4298
03:00:27,590 --> 03:00:25,520
what's going on right now behind the

4299
03:00:30,070 --> 03:00:27,600
closed doors and pulling it out who

4300
03:00:32,389 --> 03:00:30,080
knows what is out there you know in that

4301
03:00:34,389 --> 03:00:32,399
experience of us collectively doing that

4302
03:00:37,190 --> 03:00:34,399
you know there's a lot of things that

4303
03:00:38,710 --> 03:00:37,200
could have i mean the pope this you know

4304
03:00:40,389 --> 03:00:38,720
if you think about where he's at and

4305
03:00:42,469 --> 03:00:40,399
being able to baptize an

4306
03:00:45,269 --> 03:00:42,479
extraterrestrial he said who knows maybe

4307
03:00:47,750 --> 03:00:45,279
that'll happen that experience of you

4308
03:00:49,990 --> 03:00:47,760
know what we can pull out collectively

4309
03:00:51,590 --> 03:00:50,000
by putting this stuff in there and

4310
03:00:54,389 --> 03:00:51,600
standing out there and sharing what

4311
03:00:56,630 --> 03:00:54,399
we've observed in the anomalous in the

4312
03:00:59,030 --> 03:00:56,640
un the things that are not understood

4313
03:01:00,790 --> 03:00:59,040
and what whitley said is in the film the

4314
03:01:03,349 --> 03:01:00,800
best thing we can do is remain with the

4315
03:01:05,349 --> 03:01:03,359
question don't connect the dots look at

4316
03:01:07,349 --> 03:01:05,359
it like information that just washes

4317
03:01:09,590 --> 03:01:07,359
over you in this experience because we

4318
03:01:11,190 --> 03:01:09,600
have been so compartmentalized

4319
03:01:13,510 --> 03:01:11,200
none of us have the whole picture and

4320
03:01:15,750 --> 03:01:13,520
the only way that we can do this is to

4321
03:01:19,030 --> 03:01:15,760
let all of this information just watch

4322
03:01:21,590 --> 03:01:19,040
oh wash over all of us like water and

4323
03:01:22,790 --> 03:01:21,600
wash the water and we will be able to

4324
03:01:25,269 --> 03:01:22,800
understand

4325
03:01:29,030 --> 03:01:25,279
all of these things and it's going to be

4326
03:01:30,870 --> 03:01:29,040
beautiful i will personally live stream

4327
03:01:34,870 --> 03:01:30,880
leon dunking

4328
03:01:40,389 --> 03:01:38,150
hashtag the observers

4329
03:01:42,630 --> 03:01:40,399
you guys well we want to say we want to

4330
03:01:45,110 --> 03:01:42,640
say thank you jimmy because this film

4331
03:01:47,510 --> 03:01:45,120
would not be this film without you and

4332
03:01:49,110 --> 03:01:47,520
your contributions indeed jimmy you know

4333
03:01:51,590 --> 03:01:49,120
what

4334
03:01:53,269 --> 03:01:51,600
all kidding aside the warm fuzziness

4335
03:01:56,389 --> 03:01:53,279
that is going down

4336
03:01:58,309 --> 03:01:56,399
uh i have to thank uh you leon and and

4337
03:02:02,790 --> 03:01:58,319
roger and adrian

4338
03:02:05,030 --> 03:02:02,800
uh for inviting me in to participate and

4339
03:02:07,030 --> 03:02:05,040
it starts there so thank you

4340
03:02:09,349 --> 03:02:07,040
the film is amazing i encourage

4341
03:02:11,670 --> 03:02:09,359
everybody the links to go see it are

4342
03:02:14,710 --> 03:02:11,680
right below they're throughout social

4343
03:02:17,670 --> 03:02:14,720
media go and see it and let's continue

4344
03:02:19,670 --> 03:02:17,680
the conversation roger leon

4345
03:02:23,910 --> 03:02:19,680
enjoy your night we got to get back to

4346
03:02:32,389 --> 03:02:26,550
and that's it roger's out he's out

4347
03:02:37,110 --> 03:02:34,230
unbelievable leon thank you so much

4348
03:02:38,790 --> 03:02:37,120
goodbye best of maureen and uh i'll talk

4349
03:02:41,269 --> 03:02:38,800
to you like we always do first thing in

4350
03:02:46,230 --> 03:02:44,630
thank you so much this is fade to black

4351
03:02:49,110 --> 03:02:46,240
we have just

4352
03:02:50,950 --> 03:02:49,120
celebrated the worldwide premiere of the

4353
03:02:52,630 --> 03:02:50,960
observers and i want to thank linda

4354
03:02:54,550 --> 03:02:52,640
molten howe whitley strieber richard

4355
03:02:55,990 --> 03:02:54,560
dole and john greenwald debbie cobble

4356
03:02:59,510 --> 03:02:56,000
and of course

4357
03:03:01,590 --> 03:02:59,520
leon kennedy and roger r richards

4358
03:03:03,030 --> 03:03:01,600
i'm your host jimmy church what a great

4359
03:03:06,230 --> 03:03:03,040
episode tonight

4360
03:03:08,469 --> 03:03:06,240
and i am going to relax a little bit but

4361
03:03:09,830 --> 03:03:08,479
the work continues

4362
03:03:11,269 --> 03:03:09,840
tomorrow

4363
03:03:13,110 --> 03:03:11,279
thank you so much

4364
03:03:15,510 --> 03:03:13,120
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03:03:38,150 --> 03:03:35,760
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03:03:41,830 --> 03:03:40,160
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03:03:45,590 --> 03:03:44,080
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03:03:48,230 --> 03:03:45,600
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03:03:51,750 --> 03:03:48,240
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4381
03:03:57,540 --> 03:03:51,760
fun amazing weekend it's time to fade to